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Hoping the Supreme Court doesn't allow this...
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Hoping the Supreme Court doesn't allow this...

I don't hold out too much hope. After citizens united it's been pretty plain that corporations are more important than people to this SCOTUS.
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read this earlier, explains it pretty well:
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If Comcast doesn't like the fact that you cancelled their cable service because Netflix was cheaper and more convenient, they can block netflix.com from getting to your house. THAT IS NOW LEGAL.

If Verizon doesn't like the fact that you're streaming the Olympics through NBC.com - a Comcast owned company - on their fiber network, they can slow it down enough that you won't be able to. THAT IS ALSO NOW LEGAL.

Think about how absurd that is! That would be like the governor of a state deciding that he doesn't like your town just because its voters favor the other party, so he closes down one of the bridges and stops the people from getting to work. JUST THINK ABOUT HOW CRAZY IT WOULD BE IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO EVER HAPPEN.
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I don't hold out too much hope. After citizens united it's been pretty plain that corporations are more important than people to this SCOTUS.

Getting dangerously political here but I fail to see why its OK for unions and other leftist organizations to dump as much money and influence into the system as they wish but corporations are banned? In my opinion there should be an equal and limited amount of money allowed to both sides during campaigning and strict term limits for all politicians. Getting back to the question of net neutrality, I agree that the rules should be the same for all and that there needs to be a legal deterrent for telecom companies punishing competitors on their networks with slower speeds while promoting their own services with faster speeds.
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Getting dangerously political here but I fail to see why its OK for unions and other leftist organizations to dump as much money and influence into the system as they wish but corporations are banned? In my opinion there should be an equal and limited amount of money allowed to both sides during campaigning and strict term limits for all politicians. Getting back to the question of net neutrality, I agree that the rules should be the same for all and that there needs to be a legal deterrent for telecom companies punishing competitors on their networks with slower speeds while promoting their own services with faster speeds.

probably because unions technically represent large groups of PEOPLE, while corporations tend to represent the top 2-3 people (the only ones who really benefit).
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probably because unions technically represent large groups of PEOPLE, while corporations tend to represent the top 2-3 people (the only ones who really benefit).

I see, so only large groups of people (majorities) matter and smaller groups (minorities) should be discriminated against? Interesting.

As I said, its obvious that money and power is corrupting our system massively to the point that even honest and honor-bound people who enter into service in good faith can't help but to be corrupted by it. That said, it simply isn't accurate to say that "greedy" corporations are the only ones guilty here. The left uses its own big money donors and leverage to do the same thing (i.e. the Media, Hollywood, Unions, Environmental groups, Minority Groups, etc). As a conservative my wish would be that there were far LESS money and power concentrated in Washington and instead more influence was reserved for the individual states. When you have a centralized power structure as massive and out of control as our federal government there simply is no way to root out corruption as EVERYONE involved has no incentive whatsoever to upset the status quo.
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I see, so only large groups of people (majorities) matter and smaller groups (minorities) should be discriminated against? Interesting.

As I said, its obvious that money and power is corrupting our system massively to the point that even honest and honor-bound people who enter into service in good faith can't help but to be corrupted by it. That said, it simply isn't accurate to say that "greedy" corporations are the only ones guilty here. The left uses its own big money donors and leverage to do the same thing (i.e. the Media, Hollywood, Unions, Environmental groups, Minority Groups, etc). As a conservative my wish would be that there were far LESS money and power concentrated in Washington and instead more influence was reserved for the individual states. When you have a centralized power structure as massive and out of control as our federal government there simply is no way to root out corruption as EVERYONE involved has no incentive whatsoever to upset the status quo.

didn't say i agreed with it, just devil's advocating the likely reasoning behind it.
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what about the 1996 telecommunications act.200 billion dollars of PUBLIC money for what?

Mostly dark fiber

Except the stuff that the current companies privately bought up.
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they took the money and rewrote the definition of fiber to include everything above dial-up, essentially.
As someone whose mother was in the industry (Network Engineer) when this happened and had to listen to all the grumbling about it, I'd say this is a highly accurate summary, unfortunately. Still pisses me off, but that's the system we live in.
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quick question, the money subscribers gives isps to connect to the internet goes to.....?

so when isps asks the people who run the companies people want to connect to for money, it goes to....?

i wanna be an isp.

Trust me, you don't.
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Great news! The FCC is sticking its nose where it doesn't belong

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While I am by even the slightest bit a fan of the FCC, there is reason to have them. Just not ran the way it has been ran, by the people that have been running it...

what I have been told about the FCC today is why I think It should be just someone else to regulate it really.
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