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The temps are stable for 60-65

but strange that when I first did it it gone to 72 ?? why ?
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Originally Posted by Friendzoned View Post

Please answer the questions:

1- is my volt good with such overclocking ? " I increased it.

2- can I leave my computer running 24/7 ?



also I used occt for half an hour without errors .

 

Regarding #2: it doesn't matter. It's all up to you. For example, I prefer to turn my computer off if I'm going to be away from it for more than approximately 30 minutes because it makes just as much sense as leaving the lights on in a room when you're not going to be in it for a while! I mean, if I'm not going to be using my computer for a while, then why should I pay for that extra electricity? It's like leaving your car running 24/7: you're paying for that extra gas that you're not even using.

 

Now, don't get me wrong everyone. I understand that there are times where a computer can't be shut down for various reasons. I'm talking about when the computer is just idling. Doing nothing. Why leave the computer on? So that you don't have to wait for it to start up when you come back? Is your startup time really that long that it's an unpleasant wait? My startup time from the power button to the desktop is about 30 seconds, so I don't even use Sleep Mode. I could, but I don't. Why? Because it's good to restart Windows on a regular basis and I don't want to get in the tempting habit of always putting my computer to sleep. Besides, Sleep Mode was designed for laptops in order to reduce the power consumption on the battery! For that matter, so was Stand By and Hibernation.

 

Now, if my computer took like a minute and a half or longer to start up, then I might use Sleep or Hibernation, but even then I can think of easy ways to kill that time during startup. There's always something to do. In fact, back in the old days when I had a computer that took close to 4 minutes to start up, I'd turn the computer on right when I woke up, before going to the bathroom or even becoming awake enough to use the computer. Then I'd leave it on all day and turn it off at night. Of course, if I was going to be away from home for an extended period of time, then I'd just turn it off. I could always turn it on as soon as I got home when I knew that it would be a MINIMUM of like 5-10 minutes before I would be ready to use the computer. lol

 

These days though, my startup time is so short that it's always ready to go before I am, even if I sit down, turn it on, and then wait. I usually end up daydreaming during the startup (it might be an old habit), and so 30 seconds can pass by extremely fast quite easily. Even if I don't end up daydreaming, 30 seconds is nothing.

 

Come to think of it, I did have a long period of time for a while where I had my computer on 24/7 because I hated the long startup time. I even carried that on over to my sig rig for a while (long before the time came when I upgraded to Sandy Bridge). Then, one day it hit me: why am I doing that? It makes no sense for the computer to be consuming electricity. Again, it's like leaving lights on in a room that you're not using. Yeah, sure, if you're going to be in and out of that room, then leave the lights on. But, if you're going to be away from that room for a while, like 30 minutes or more, then turn the lights off. Well, with lights, I actually turn them off even if I'm going to be away from the room for 5-10 minutes. Lights are a bit different than a computer: it's a simple on and off. A computer has several things that have to turn on, power up, etc. lol

 

Anyway, yeah, there's no definitive answer. Lots of people love leaving their computer on 24/7 so that when they want to go use it, it's on and ready, just like Jarvis in Iron Man: "Hey Jarvis, you up?" "For you sir, always." I'm not an eccentric millionaire, so it's important to me to make sure I'm not paying for things that I'm not actually using, like electricity. Yeah, it's extremely convenient to leave the computer on 24/7, but you're paying for it.

 

I also have to assume that everything in the computer will die sooner than it otherwise would, just like how a light bulb can have a lifespan of 1,500 hours. For every second it's on, it's getting closer and closer to its death. Turn it off, and you stop that progress dead in its tracks.

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Thanks guys , I used heaven again and it looks ok , but I got less score since I used different setting , is increasing the power limit gives me some performance ?

until now , everything is good , but I'm still wondering if I should re overclock the card for higher clocks , or leave it at this.

since your failed 1st oc with this card had a throttling, it would be the reason which the score was lower(gpu was not at its 100%)

could you compare the settings you used in the 1st oc with unigine and check if there is a difference?
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Hey , sorry guys for being late ,

first of all thank you all , and the reason I like to not turn off my computer is because as you said I don't like turning on when I use it biggrin.gif

anyways , I ran the same settings on heaven but still gave me the same result " 1 score better " , it was 839

not sure why ?
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Originally Posted by Friendzoned View Post

Hey , sorry guys for being late ,

first of all thank you all , and the reason I like to not turn off my computer is because as you said I don't like turning on when I use it biggrin.gif

anyways , I ran the same settings on heaven but still gave me the same result " 1 score better " , it was 839

not sure why ?
cpu and resolution?
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

cpu and resolution?

Hey , my cpu is i5 3470

I don't know what res , but I put the " extreme option on heaven 4.

also I played skyrim for about an hour now without crashing , but I really think that my overclock wasn't really worth it ,
post #37 of 46
THIS article may give you some insight. Its a review for the ASUS GTX660, but it makes some great observations.

If you won't read the article, I'll sum it up for you. Basically with a higher clock, the card performed worse. They had to find a middle ground to OC the thing. Read the sections on the overclocking and the results during gaming.

Also, I recommend following the GPU OCing guide that is linked in my signature. It ensures that you are getting a good performing overlock rather than a high clock speed.
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Ive read pretty much everything but Im not totally sure I understand you.

Are you using +20% power limit?
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post

THIS article may give you some insight. Its a review for the ASUS GTX660, but it makes some great observations.

If you won't read the article, I'll sum it up for you. Basically with a higher clock, the card performed worse. They had to find a middle ground to OC the thing. Read the sections on the overclocking and the results during gaming.

Also, I recommend following the GPU OCing guide that is linked in my signature. It ensures that you are getting a good performing overlock rather than a high clock speed.

When I said it's worst than default I meant as in this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1269574/your-radeon-7850-overclocking-results

their scores are better , some of them can even overclock it higher with the same volt !! and some of them have the same card that I have.
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Ive read pretty much everything but Im not totally sure I understand you.

Are you using +20% power limit?

Yes I downloaded msi afterburner now , and this is the last result I got from overclocking , the problem is the volt is high but I can't get it to work on higher clocks / memory , why ? if I increased it 1 ghz it crashes.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/2n9ykis.jpg
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Originally Posted by Friendzoned View Post

Hey , my cpu is i5 3470

I don't know what res , but I put the " extreme option on heaven 4.

also I played skyrim for about an hour now without crashing , but I really think that my overclock wasn't really worth it ,

unigine let you adjust the resolution
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Ive read pretty much everything but Im not totally sure I understand you.

Are you using +20% power limit?

is this question for me?
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