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Hi I am almost done building my first custom liquid cooling loop. I was going to use a kill coil and distilled water and some fesser base anti corrosive but this thread really worries me about the kill coil.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1205823/silver-kill-coil-not-working
After reading that thread I am now looking more into PT Nuke PHN and I am still going to get the fesser base anti corrosive. What do you guys recommend I do?
These are the links to the Kill Coil I was going to get, the fesser base anti corrosive, and the PT Nuke PHN.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/IandH_Silver_KillCoils_-_Antimicrobial_999_Fine_Silver_Tubing_Reservoir_Strip.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21400/ex-liq-95/Feser_Base_Corrosion_Blocker_-_50mL_-_FB-0055.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/peptpcobi1.html

Thanks for the help smile.gif
post #2 of 58
I used the same Kill Coil for almost three years and had no issues whatsoever. You only need one or the other, Kill Coil or PT Nuke, not both. Using both shouldn't harm anything, but I see no benefit in using both

BTW, that wasn't algae or other growth. That was corrosion. A Kill Coil doesn't stop corrosion, only biological growth.
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i use PT Nuke, and have done for 4 years now. no issues, though it is still good to flush the system every once in a while. though i have usually made a loop change or wanted new hose so probably no more than 12 months on the same water for me
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post #4 of 58
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Can a kill coil cause corrosion? Which do you recommend the kill coil or the PT Nuke PHN? Can I use the fesser base and the kill coil together? How often do I need to add more of the fesser base?
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I am pretty sure you don't need either the kill coil or PHN nuke, if you are going to use the Feser base.

You won't have any biological growth in a toxic anti corrosive.
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I thought about that but both the pt nuke phn and the kill coil are so cheap it won't hurt just to put it in there. I am not as concerned about algae as I am about corrosion. Is fesser base a good anti corrosive or would you guys recommend something different? Can I silver kill coil cause corrosion? Are there any specific distilled water brands I should look for or will arrowhead distilled water work?
post #7 of 58
Technically, yes, it could cause corrosion since they are not the same metal. The only way to completely prevent corrosion is to make sure every since metal that is in contact with water is the same metal. Which is almost impossible. Most radiators, with the exception of a few, have some brass in them. Most fittings are plated brass. Even with a corrosion inhibitor, like Feser Base, corrosion still takes place, just much slower than without a corrosion inhibitor. When I get my loop rebuilt I'm going with PT Nuke instead of the Coil this time just to give it a shot. But I am comfortable recommending either one.

Distilled is distilled. Makes no difference of the brand. I've used a few different brands from pharmacies and grocery stores and I couldn't tell the difference.

But like woottonp said, it's a good idea to flush the system and add new coolant every so often. I normally do it once a year or so.
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+1 on the distilled water, i use a 5l from halfords (chain of car parts retailers here in the UK) and have never had issues. best to get something local that you can easily obtain, that way you wont ever be concerned about wasting any or needing to re-use
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I thought about that but both the pt nuke phn and the kill coil are so cheap it won't hurt just to put it in there. I am not as concerned about algae as I am about corrosion. Is fesser base a good anti corrosive or would you guys recommend something different? Can I silver kill coil cause corrosion? Are there any specific distilled water brands I should look for or will arrowhead distilled water work?

I would not mix silver coil with PHN nuke or PT nuke, or any copper sulphate based biocide. It's one or the other. If you are using pure distilled water.

I would not add silver or nuke to a corrosion inhibitor. Corrosion inhibitors are usually some form of Glycol, ethylene or propylene, both toxic. No need for biocide with that IMO.
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Thank you everyone for the help and suggestions. After reading all your posts my conclusion is that I will go with the kill coil and fesser base. The reason I chose the kill coil over the PHN Nuke or PT Nuke is because there is no maintenance involved with the kill coil, for pt nuke or phn nuke I believe it loses affect over time and you will need to add more. How often will I need to add more of the fesser base?
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