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I just don't see where this mentality comes from other than looking at sensational arguments. When you factor in the man power that CSIS, NSA, and other related national security firms have access to, why on earth would, or how, could they even investigate every case? They can't, nor do. They merely screen certain content, and if the content, being text and location while also considering known threats, etc., give enough correlation to investigate upon, they will. It's no different then someone yelling out "I'm going to kill you" and then someone takes preventive action on the street. The only difference is one is in the digital field and one is physical.

Don't be so short-sighted. They may not have manpower now, but the records are forever. Who knows, maybe your grandchildren's grandchildren will be disqualified from Earth's exodus because of your views that were recorded today, as being not of the popular opinion of the future time. Too bad it is difficult to see the real future, alas, you may be judged into eternity. As those who have spoke previously, the very foundation from which America was built was to escape all those elements that seemed to rule their lives (religion, oligarchy, etc.). People wanted to be free to choose their own destiny and not have it hindered or manipulated by these elements they fled from.

It seems to me, by mass compiling data on it's citizens, the government can create better algorithms of law that keeps the status quo of the hidden oligarchy of the central banksters.

The US government has been getting increasingly better at their wolves-in-sheep's-clothing governing. Do people want the industrial-military complex and constant war? Or do they want better roads and less traffic? Some of you young guys have only known war and thus think nothing of it. It's comparable to that hamburger meat you buy. You don't see the cows in line getting butchered and tortured, but sure love that greasy cheeseburger. Jeb Bush as a candidate for presidency? Sure seems like an oligarchy to me.

I can go on and on but again, most of you will probably again shrug me off as some conspiracy nut job, but the older you get, the more in-tune with society you get, the more you see your government for what it is, and at this point, if you think you know, you don't.

What the US government is doing is invasion of privacy for whatever gains they see fit. It can hide under the guise of terror or crime control, but this data can also be used for population control as well. Think about it.
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Unless you have been hiding from Google and / or Microsoft from the very beginning, there is no need to buy such a phone. Google already owns most of your info once you set up your Gmail account for the first time. The age of privacy is over. You may as well enjoy the benefits of having your info, usage, passwords, credit cards, preferences, and tastes remembered and utilized to make your Android / Windows experience easier and more streamlined.

Letting Google and Microsoft have your personal information MAY back-fire 50+ years from now if such data ends up being used on massive scale against a ton of people to prosecute or judge or expose them, but not any time soon.

BESIDES, do you really think the government or even Google / Microsoft would not be able to get your info and / or hack this "Pro-Privacy" phone?
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Unless you have been hiding from Google and / or Microsoft from the very beginning...

Again, it is not about prosecuting, but population manipulation, and not by MS or Google, but the oligarchy.
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Manipulation? What do you mean? Every since people learned to trade, they've been manipulating each other... Do you mean ads? Those can be easily blocked!
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Unless it has a removable battery, not secure.
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According to Snowden this phone is useless...
    
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According to Snowden this phone is useless...

And he's probably correct. I won't get on the network side since I have absolutely no insight into that but just from a hardware side unless this thing is pure FOSS with it's software especially on the firmware/driver side then it isn't going to make much difference. Companies provide through their desire to hide source code the perfect backdoor. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying they don't have a right, "good" reason, or that they don't occasionally keep up on securing their consumer products; but without code that BIOS/EFI/firmware open for all eyes to audit you have to trust they have your best interests (not theirs).

Really, the only way to have the remotest of privacy on these non-private pieces of hardware is to obfuscate, encrypt, and steganograph everything. But again, if you don't have firmware level control of your hardware then you're still caught with your pants down if someone really wants after you.
     
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For those interested in a secure phone without giving up their favorite apps by going to a BBOS/BB10 based Blackberry or a non-Play Service enabled Blackphone, they are releasing the Blackberry Priv in November.

Will be the first secure Android handset with Google's blessing(complete with shield wielding BugDroid mascot during bootup), with built in hardware and software level protection. You maintain access to Play Services, built in realtime OS level virus scanning and threat detection, and modern hardware(64bit hexcore 808, 18mp IOS camera, external SD slot, 3400+mah battery, and ~5.4" dual curved screen for notifications on the side). To stand out from other Android handsets without adding RAM hogging bloatware and proprietary interfaces, they stuck to the vanilla android style and added future BB subscription based features like the Hub notification center to group and organize all messages, Active Frames, their stellar Virtual Keyboard developed in partnership with Swiftkey, BB Calender, and Universal Search. Oh, and it has a black glass weave back with a sexy slide out touch enabled keyboard that doubles as a trackpad smile.gif.

Read up on it here: http://crackberry.com/everything-we-know-about-blackberrys-upcoming-android-powered-slider



Exciting device, tech sites are raving about it and even diehard Android members are expressing their desire to purchase one.
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For those interested in a secure phone without giving up their favorite apps by going to a BBOS/BB10 based Blackberry or a non-Play Service enabled Blackphone, they are releasing the Blackberry Priv in November.

Will be the first secure Android handset with Google's blessing(complete with shield wielding BugDroid mascot during bootup), with built in hardware and software level protection. You maintain access to Play Services, built in realtime OS level virus scanning and threat detection, and modern hardware(64bit hexcore 808, 18mp IOS camera, external SD slot, 3400+mah battery, and ~5.4" dual curved screen for notifications on the side). To stand out from other Android handsets without adding RAM hogging bloatware and proprietary interfaces, they stuck to the vanilla android style and added future BB subscription based features like the Hub notification center to group and organize all messages, Active Frames, their stellar Virtual Keyboard developed in partnership with Swiftkey, BB Calender, and Universal Search. Oh, and it has a black glass weave back with a sexy slide out touch enabled keyboard that doubles as a trackpad smile.gif.

Read up on it here: http://crackberry.com/everything-we-know-about-blackberrys-upcoming-android-powered-slider



Exciting device, tech sites are raving about it and even diehard Android members are expressing their desire to purchase one.

Hurray they use grsecurity setups! Still don't trust them not to have firmware (and thus "invisible") backdoors.
     
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I know people joke about the NSA, but it probably is true, if the NSA has had access to our PC's through motherboards BIO's - which I have read several places is true, then it would be no surprise they don't have access to everything, lol
    
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