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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Nothing has been said about the 6-pin being optional as with the 290x Lightning, so assume they are all mandatory.

Yes, mandatory.
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...I think Jacob mentioned that they might release a BIOS update to help with the VRAM clocking...but to achieve that, they most likely would have to loosen timings a bit to get more MHz - a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul...that said, they may have some wiggle room depending how conservative the original BIOS timings were, so I wouldn't write it off yet.

...the other day I was looking for s.th,.on some old IDE hard drives...and ran across the 'ATI Tool' from many moons ago (AGP days?)...in there was an option to actually change VRAM timings yourself, not that it really helped all that much before you stared to crash but still...
Well, in not that old of a days back, with the Asus GTX580 Matrix I had, the vram timings could be changed directly in GPUtweak. The tool was bad in it's early days (I don't know now) but it had that. rolleyes.gif
Sorry to quote a few page back message.
(not sure I make sense in english there)
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post #683 of 8148
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Ya I will hold off and see what happens. I mean I didn't have delusions of grandeur, all I was expecting was maybe a boost step or two more than the Ti Classifieds under the same voltage, and decent memory speed. These cards were particularly marketed and designed with only Samsung memory, but to not be able to do over +150 on one of my cards is. wth.gif

A BIOS may help with memory, but I don't think it will change the cores. One Kingpin does ok, about tied with my Classifieds, but one Kingpin actually does worse. It is definitely a great looking card and fun to work with, but the core binning and memory speeds just aren't there.


Some numbers I am dealing with:

Both cards are 66% ASIC
XOCKPti.rom
1.35v core with 600 KHz PWM
OCP's Extreme
1.8v Mem
Pex 1.085v
PexPWM 850KHz

Remaining Ti Classified (77% ASIC-Hynix Memory) with above numbers completely artifact free-crash free in Heaven/Valley: 1424 core / 8500 Mem.

Kingpin #1 with above numbers completely artifact free-crash free in Heaven/Valley: 1424 core / 7500 Mem.

Kingpin #2 with above numbers completely artifact free-crash free in Heaven/Valley: 1398 core / 7300 Mem.

I know I am probably killing my chance to sell it on this forum but Kingpin #2 is a real dog and should be RMA'd or sold on Ebay or something lol. Kingpin name on something that performs this badly. redface.gif

Temps are good on all the cards, maxing around ~40C. Look's like I am in the same position as Strong, 780Ti Classifieds ending up better.

I completely agree with this. It is very much a shame that with Kingpin's name on the card that it is anything but the best. And before someone comes back with silicon lottery, remember folks that these cards were binned to be the best. That should apply to water cooling or greater in my opinion, because LN2 is not going to save the memory. Maybe it is just a bios flash away from being fixed.
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post #684 of 8148
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Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

I hope you're right. Did you sell your Classies to move on to these?

Move to classy ti, had 3 sold two and have ordered one kingpin
keeping the fingers crossed on kp, was hoping for something special
Edited by scum - 1/25/14 at 8:01am
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Jpm what is your max core clocks on the Kingpin at that voltage completely artifact free? I notice you list only 7400 Memory, is it crashing higher than that?

Vega - I'm only air cooled atm. I was able to keep the card (GPU) under 60C by open window cooling so I have not yet added any real voltage with the evbot - it reads/set to 1.21875 and 1.7 - that's one notch on the bot for nvdd... this measures at 1.34V on a DMM while running mk11, same in valley. Max clock is 1420 (boost). So depending on the benchmark, stock or stock +1 voltage is good for 1380-1420 so far. yes, artifact free. Actually, as soon as I see any glitches i stop the run cause, for me, it will usually crash anyway.

I'm having more freakin issues with this replacement 4930K than the KP. my old 4930K did 4.9 easy, this one get to 4.8 with massaging, else it 124s very easy.
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post #686 of 8148
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Vega - I'm only air cooled atm. I was able to keep the card (GPU) under 60C by open window cooling so I have not yet added any real voltage with the evbot - it reads/set to 1.21875 and 1.7 - that's one notch on the bot for nvdd... this measures at 1.34V on a DMM while running mk11, same in valley. Max clock is 1420 (boost). So depending on the benchmark, stock or stock +1 voltage is good for 1380-1420 so far. yes, artifact free. Actually, as soon as I see any glitches i stop the run cause, for me, it will usually crash anyway.

I'm having more freakin issues with this replacement 4930K than the KP. my old 4930K did 4.9 easy, this one get to 4.8 with massaging, else it 124s very easy.

my KEP will only get here on Thursday im happy I only got one this time

and will wait too see what happens before I get another one

my classys where not so good only ok so I hope my KEP will be better

my fist classy only can do 1424 / 8600 and the second one can only do 1400 / 8400 in fire strike in valley they can go up to 1489 / 8600
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post #687 of 8148
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I'm not take any side here, Have any of you read the KPE OC guide in the OP or the small guide that comes with GPU? if not take your time and read. The OC memory has been around since the day they released it to the public. Even the small OC guide that comes with KPE has the same chart.


K|NGP|N Edition OC guide Download PDF format: Spoiler! (Click to show) K|NGP|N Edition OC guide Download PNG format: Spoiler! (Click to show) K|NGP|N Edition OC guide View PNG format: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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That guide really doesn't mean much if the Kingpins are ending up overall slower than regular Classifieds like has happened to Strong and myself.
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And before someone comes back with silicon lottery, remember folks that these cards were binned to be the best.


binned what? lol.... urban legend!
neither the classifieds nor the kingpin were binned at all
i dont have the numbers - but if they sold 1000? classifieds and 500? kingpin
who @ EVGA should have done this at what/which price?

personally i had 6 780ti classified 63, 64, 67, 69 and finally 76 and 79 ASIC
all my buddies with ref boards laugh about me and my cards:)

their cards: 1,15Volts and 1380 rockstable
my classies: 1.200Volts and 1228 rockstable (the best out of this 6)
their cards: 780$
my classies: 1000$ each (eurozone)

that is what is holding me back from buying 2 kingpin
missing some results with 1.200/1.212Volts to have an orientation

i just don't know where i am and what to do now - a bit unhappy this time
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That guide really doesn't mean much if the Kingpins are ending up overall slower than regular Classifieds like has happened to Strong and myself.

I'm talk about the OC memory results and how far it had gone.

GPU 1200/7400 - 1350/7600 - 1750/7800

keep in mind the more cold the far it goes, "This is K|NGP|N words and many LN2 pro around"
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