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Ok, so I am looking to do a build, mainly for BF4, but I'm hoping to have some expandability built in (SLI/xfire down the road, slight future-proofing)... Anyway, having said that, I want to start with a 480 rad, or perhaps even (2), just to work it into the loop so all I have to do is incorporate the components into the existing setup when the time comes.

I'm not exactly 'tight' on budget, although I do look at the bottom line, and think, "I'm basically spending $3k for a BF4 machine..!?!". So, there's that. But, not enough of that to warranty cutting down on the build.

Here is where I am going (so far), notice there is no case selected yet, amongst other things... I want to go push/pull, I want to use high grade components when there is a reasonable difference in terms of performance/quality. In all honesty, in being an utter, and complete newb.. and still having done some research.. I still find myself in the 'paralysis by analysis' mode. So, I would categorize this in the 'Build Me A Custom Loop' part of the forum, if there was one....


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CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $440.00)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($419.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $170.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($539.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($183.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-16D1HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($104.99 @ Dell Small Business)
Total: $2234.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-15 09:59 EST-0500)
Edited by SeanEboy - 1/15/14 at 6:59am
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Some recommendations on parts:

CPU Block: EK Supremacy or XSPC Raystorm
GPU Block: EK or XSPC
Radiators: Alphacool NexXxos series(various thicknesses available depending on space restrictions - 30mm, 45mm, 60mm, 86mm)
Reservoir: Bitspower Z-Multi or FrozenQ(expensive but high aesthetic value)
Pump: D5 Vario(MCP655, VPP655, PMP450) or MCP35x
Tube: Primochill Advanced LRT
Fitting: Bitspower(expensive but the best quality) or XSPC(much cheaper, but still good quality)
Fans: Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15
Fan Controller: Anything from Lamptron. I love my "Lamptron Fan Controller Touch"
Case: Corsair 900D, CaseLabs, LittleDevil
Coolant: Distilled water with PT Nuke(or other form of biocide) or anything from Mayhems if you want colored coolant
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Hey! Thanks a lot for the recommendations! Now I have a bit better of a starting point... I actually did find that the Nexxxos was the way to go, however I looked on their site and couldn't even find a place to look at the rads, only GPU and CPU blocks.. Left confused... I actually heard that the Gentle Typhoons were the way go to (found them for $18.95 ea), also heard they were supposedly being discontinued?

I'm going to go and price out your recommendations and see where that takes me. Thanks again.
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Depending on your location, Performance-PCs has a great selection of watercooling gear at good prices. I've dealt with them 20+ times and have only had one issue, which they quickly resolved at their own expense. Also, if you use promo code OCN55 upon checkout, you get a 5.5% discount, which with a large order like this, usually covers the price of shipping. Other good online US retailers are FrozenCPU and Sidewinder Computers.

And check out the Watercooling Essentials thread. Lots of good info a guides there that really helped me when I was first starting out.

Discontinuation of the GTs has been somewhat confirmed and somewhat denied. Scythe is ending their relationship with Nidec Servo, the actual fan manufacturer, so they will no longer be selling them under the Scythe name. Nidec will continue producing the fans on an industrial level(bulk quantity orders) but we have yet to hear if someone else will make a deal to become the consumer reseller(small quantity orders like you and me) of these great fans. But other good options are Yate Loons, Swiftech Helix, NB e-Loops, etc. I have Coolermaster R4's and GT's in my build and love them both.
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I'm located in NY. Florida isn't too far...

I'll take a look at the thread. On the fans...I was actually wondering what was going to happen, because I have warehousing capabilities, as well as daily shipping pickup/deliveries.. Perhaps I should take up the reins... ;c)
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FrozenCPU is is located in NY I believe. Could save on shipping costs. They have a promo code too, I just can't remember it since I haven't used them in a while
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Would going with the 80mm thick rad be more overkill than it's worth? Will a push/pull 80mm fit in a 900D? So far I'm up to $760+.. And thinking more and more of putting off the water cooling until after I'm up and running on air for a bit. But then again, who cares, it's only money... ;c) What do you think about this selection of parts so far? And what say you on the 80mm rad?


Edited by SeanEboy - 1/15/14 at 10:32am
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Personally, I think the Monsta rads are more of a novelty item. Yes, it offer slightly more cooling potential, but not that much more than the UT60. I've heard various things on whether a Monsta in push/pull will fit in the top of a 900D. Apparently it depends on the motherboard. The UT60 with push/pull would definitely fit though

Don't forget the CPU Block. And you'll need some sort of biocide too, like PT Nuke or Mayhem's Extreme Biocide. And if you are going with a 900D, I'd go with the 250 version of that res. But that's more for aesthetic purposes since I think the smaller res would look kind of silly in such a massive case.

I noticed you have 10 GTs but only enough radiator space for 8? There is nothing wrong with using GTs as case fans, but I think it's unnecessary to spend $20 on a fan if it's only going to be used as a case fan. Just my opinion.

Everything else looks good though thumb.gif

EDIT: also, you might want to thick about adding a couple 45 and 90 degree adapters in case you need to make and tight turns or bends. Better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them
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Bah, I thought I had the CPU block in there... As for the biocide.. I am having trouble trying to come up with a color scheme - and if it even matters to me.. I guess it's always nice to spice it up a bit.. But, I'm not sure if I'm a red, or blue kind of guy. And, from what I'm reading, some of these dyes don't last too long. In that case, I'd just want the longest lasting. So perhaps clear would be the way to go, with UV tubing?
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On the fans...I was actually wondering what was going to happen, because I have warehousing capabilities, as well as daily shipping pickup/deliveries.. Perhaps I should take up the reins... ;c)

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You are probably unaware of this, but there was a group buy for gentle typhoons here two or so years ago that ended up being an epic fiasco. So much so that OCN management decided to never support another official group buy again. I know you only mentioned that in jest, but I couldn't help flinching when I read that tongue.gif

Thick rads only really give you a performance benefit if you crank up your fan speed, so go with something thinner if noise will be an issue for you.
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