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post #11 of 26
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It's still in Beta stages. Besides, you can use the Steam Linux client with most if not all major Linux distributions.

Main problem with that is every linux distribution comes with a gigantic learning curve that will turn away all but the most patient. Problems aren't nearly as easily rectified as they are on Windows/OS X
post #12 of 26
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Main problem with that is every linux distribution comes with a gigantic learning curve that will turn away all but the most patient. Problems aren't nearly as easily rectified as they are on Windows/OS X

There is no gigantic learning curve. You can use an iPhone yes? Or an Android phone? Or even a Windows phone? Then you can easily use pretty much any Linux distribution out there. Installing applications is no harder these days and when a machine has it pre-installed, that takes away any extra guess work. The rest tends to work just like any standard ( pre-win8 ) desktop.
post #13 of 26
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There also shouldn't be any that use a GTX 780 Ti.

A Steam Machine needs to be a $400 - $600 box that plays games at 1080p at 40-60fps with decent graphics settings. Fin.

Well we sort of have that with the PS4 (and yes sometimes the Xbox One too) Phaedrus, I think the technology is there to push for 60+FPS at 1080P while being 500$.

I don't think its "crazy" to expect this in 2013/2014.
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post #14 of 26
I think they should have made a baseline spec for when a company can call their machine a Steam Machine. They could have made another trademarked title for streaming boxes. Any company can take Steam OS and put it on their machines but if they wanted to have the support of Valve and the title of Steam Machine, then I would have liked their to be some expected level of quality.

This would have provided better standardization rather than this current random assortment of performance. They wouldn't want Steam Machines and SteamOS to be associated with crappy builds. I can see it happening like Vista on computers with 512mb of memory. People will see something marked as Steam Machine, buy it thinking they can play all the cool games with nice graphics, then find that it can only play the small indie games and none of the flashy games and be disappointed. Not a good first impression.

They could have had a two strong brands with expected performance, one for streaming and one for native gaming. Sort of like Windows Phone and their minimum specs or ultrabooks and Intel's minimum spec. It would be something that would be updated yearly or bi-yearly to dictate what newer machines could be marketed as a Steam Machine.
post #15 of 26
i wish the steam machine was an optimized system like a console, with a pc-type interface. and people actually made games for it
post #16 of 26
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The fact that SteamOS doesn't support the vast majority of recent AAA games already makes it difficult to sell to the target mainstream audience (console gamers). But yeah, there just shouldn't be any Steam machines that use Intel HD integrated graphics -.-

Are they targeting console gamers, though? The only vibe I ever got from SteamOS/SteamBox was "alternative to using a Windows PC for gaming" but that perception may be biased by my hopes for just that exact thing.
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post #17 of 26
if i were to build a "Steam Box" it would be and mITX Kaveri + 260x + 2x4Gb 2200+ Mhz ram + Hybrid SSHD. cheap and efficient in a small package. probably could be run on a good 300W PSU too.
post #18 of 26
ive said it before, i was a big proponent of steamOS until i realised it wasnt an OS doh.gif

Ubuntu is losing 1million$ a year, Yet it has a huge following still and a good team behind it, why doesn’t Gabe pick it up right now, they also get the opensource smart phone market !! and you can stream windows games to your friken phone which nobody on the planet is doing.

Just buy Canonical ... put your optimisations on so every ubuntu distro gets the gaming benefits too and make the OS have a corner icon for big picture or a boot menu with BP or Desktop
Edited by Pip Boy - 1/15/14 at 12:53pm
post #19 of 26
I really don't see this taking off for all of the fore mentioned reasons. Not to mention a ridiculous amount of PC games don't even work on Linux and who knows if they ever will.
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I really don't see this taking off for all of the fore mentioned reasons. Not to mention a ridiculous amount of PC games don't even work on Linux and who knows if they ever will.

if you own a MS licence for windows to be able to play your games on windows 7 or 8 then presumably this 'right' is all that’s needed in order to run a to metal VM and insert the licence code after a fresh win 7 install ?

it could be handled this way very quickly and transparently
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