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post #11 of 33
Stay away from the Corsair CX series

Only buy it if A you are broke and have no money for anything better

Or B if you are building something low end that wont be used for gaming
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No judgement and correct me if im wrong but a first build you should not try do the above hack especially if you can not afford to lose the board and or processor. I mean i have a couple builds under me and i wouldn't try this unless i had money to blow.

he has the ideal board, and could get the mod sticker for $5.

775 Xeons are cheap. Might be worth ~$25 to try out, especially considering he is planning on building a rig anyways. Whats he got to lose? A board he wasn't going to use? The modding is pretty simple too...tongue.gif
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post #13 of 33
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Here is my suggested build. Its a bit over budget but i believe it would be worth your while to save up for it.
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BNAo) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BNAo/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BNAo/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
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**CPU** | [AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad580kwohjbox) | $109.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [Biostar Hi-Fi A85W ATX FM2 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/biostar-motherboard-hifia85w) | $86.97 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr1) | $84.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct240m500ssd1) | $147.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42765kr) | $259.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Case** | [Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300rwindowed) | $88.98 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m) | $49.99 @ Newegg
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $828.88
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Not the CX series again? I like it otherwise, except you spent more $ for slower ram.
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post #14 of 33
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Ok, I'll definitely upgrade to 8 gigs then just to be safe. Ya, the price doesn't include an OS because I plan on using my current XP Home Edition until I find something that suits me.

Check out the dreamspark link in my signature, if you like windows 8.1 or windows 8 it may be a valid way to get a free OS.
post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

he has the ideal board, and could get the mod sticker for $5.

775 Xeons are cheap. Might be worth ~$25 to try out, especially considering he is planning on building a rig anyways. Whats he got to lose? A board he wasn't going to use? The modding is pretty simple too...tongue.gif

Hm, that's a good point. Quite cheap, and even if I do happen to fail at least it wasn't at a high expense. Maybe I'll do it as a side-project. Though, as of now, I can't afford to break it since it's all I have.
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Check out the dreamspark link in my signature, if you like windows 8.1 or windows 8 it may be a valid way to get a free OS.

This is amazing! I will check out Windows 8.
Edited by browsin - 1/15/14 at 1:08pm
post #16 of 33
What about a bit more than 700usd?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BQnq
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BQnq/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2BQnq/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot G2 Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.76 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Armor Reveo Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $759.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-15 16:41 EST-0500)
post #17 of 33
Browsin,

I think your original build is very well thought out. Here's another idea that is worth consideration for the type of games you like to play...


A build for eventual overclocking.... (good for learning on IMO)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Dropping down to a dual module ("quad core") chip here and going FM2 for this build recommendation. This is from the richland family and as such, offers a very good chance of reaching a very high overclock. ~5ghz is pretty common on richland parts when the overclock is performed correctly. At 5ghz, this chip has performance comparable to an i5-3330. Not bad for $90. The FX-6300 originally selected is also a very good value gaming chip, however, I believe that for the types of games you play, a richland at 5ghz would perform as well or better than an FX-6300 at 4.6ghz. (which is a pretty practical overclock potential for the FX chip)

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler ($33.35 @ Newegg)
Awesome looks for a side-window build and these are actually strong performers. Plenty of cooling to aim for 5ghz+ on the richland chip.

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
I like this board for a build with future overclocking in mind because it has good CPU socket placement for larger CPU heatsinks, and heatsunk VRMs which will typically afford the headroom of power deliver required for overclocking. $15 off combo special with memory. Also, this will look nice in that case with the side window.

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
In combo special with motherboard $15 off. Good quality kit. 2x4GB instead of 2x2GB. Handsome looking kit for side-window bling and matches the motherboard and and CPU-HSF aesthetics pretty well.

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($130.98 @ Newegg)
240GB is a more practical size to move into for your new build, especially when you upgrade to a newer version of windows. Win7/8 with updates, and a swap file that matches your RAM size is going to be ~35+GB alone.

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
This is the same thing as the HD7870 that you selected, just a different model number. This is $180 to the door with no MIRs, slightly better value.

Case: Thermaltake Urban 21 BOM ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
I think this case represents a better value for a build in this budget range, though the case you had selected was wonderful, this should offer about 80% of the awesomeness for about half the price.

Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Unfortunately, the Corsair CX series isn't the quality you might expect coming from the corsair name. Pass if you can. This Rosewill is actually a better built unit with higher efficiency.

Total: $704.27 shipped, $684.27 after MIRs.
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker, edited by mdocod 2014-01-15 16:37 EST-0500)

I think that this build offers more for the money than the original build plan, as it doubles the RAM, doubles the SSD, improves the quality of the PSU, and is OC ready right away.


For a non-OC build, something like this would be better...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570S 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Going for this S model because it offs a good balance of single threaded performance (up to 3.6ghz turbo) and a lower power requirement under parallel workloads (2.9ghz base clocks w/65W TDP) $16 combo savings with RAM.

Motherboard: ASRock H81M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.98 @ SuperBiiz)
I normally wouldn't opt for such a lightweight board, but with the "S" chip I feel confident in this pairing.

Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
$16 off combo savings with CPU. 1x8GB to start with here to keep the other slot on the motherboard open for upgrades.

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill RANGER-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $722.90 shipped. $712.90 after MIR.
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker, edited by mdocod 2014-01-15 17:30 EST-0500)
Edited by mdocod - 1/15/14 at 2:35pm
     
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post #18 of 33
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Browsin,

I think your original build is very well thought out. Here's another idea that is worth consideration for the type of games you like to play...


A build for eventual overclocking.... (good for learning on IMO)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Dropping down to a dual module ("quad core") chip here and going FM2 for this build recommendation. This is from the richland family and as such, offers a very good chance of reaching a very high overclock. ~5ghz is pretty common on richland parts when the overclock is performed correctly. At 5ghz, this chip has performance comparable to an i5-3330. Not bad for $90, though you will need to throw a $30-50 CPU cooler at it later to start tinkering with that overclock. The FX-6300 originally selected is also a very good value gaming chip, however, I believe that for the types of games you play, a richland at 5ghz would perform as well or better than an FX-6300 at 4.6ghz. (which is a pretty practical overclock potential for the FX chip)

CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Cooler ($33.35 @ Newegg)
Awesome looks for a side-window build and these are actually strong performers. Plenty of cooling to aim for 5ghz+ on the richland chip.

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X EXTREME4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
I like this board for a build with future overclocking in mind because it has good CPU socket placement for larger CPU heatsinks, and heatsunk VRMs which will typically afford the headroom of power deliver required for overclocking. $15 off combo special with memory. Also, this will look nice in that case with the side window.

Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
In combo special with motherboard $15 off. Good quality kit. 2x4GB instead of 2x2GB. Handsome looking kit for side-window bling and matches the motherboard and and CPU-HSF aesthetics pretty well.

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($130.98 @ Newegg)
240GB is a more practical size to move into for your new build, especially when you upgrade to a newer version of windows. Win7/8 with updates, and a swap file that matches your RAM size is going to be ~35+GB alone.

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
This is the same thing as the HD7870 that you selected, just a different model number. This is $180 to the door with no MIRs, slightly better value.

Case: Thermaltake Urban 21 BOM ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
I think this case represents a better value for a build in this budget range, though the case you had selected was wonderful, this should offer about 80% of the awesomeness for about half the price.

Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Unfortunately, the Corsair CX series isn't the quality you might expect coming from the corsair name. Pass if you can. This Rosewill is actually a better built unit with higher efficiency.

Total: $704.27 shipped, $684.27 after MIRs.
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker, edited by mdocod 2014-01-15 16:37 EST-0500)

+1.

You could even 'settle' for a 1TB HDD in place of the SDD and utilize the extra money for a bit more GPU. A 1TB Seagate or WD Black/Blue can be had for right around $90. It gives you much more room to play with; then I'd get a 128g SSD. Those are right in that sweet spot at the moment.

Again, the above build is an excellent choice, and I can attest to excellent OC'ing on those Richland chips.
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+1.

You could even 'settle' for a 1TB HDD in place of the SDD and utilize the extra money for a bit more GPU. A 1TB Seagate or WD Black/Blue can be had for right around $90.

What?... The most I'd spend on 1TB is $70... I often see them for $60
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Originally Posted by zemco999 View Post

What?... The most I'd spend on 1TB is $70... I often see them for $60

Oh, definitely. I see the Barracuda's going for that, but the WD's are a little bit extra (unless I'm being bamboozled thinking.gif).

In any case, it is a win-win for the OP if he chooses to forego the SSD in favor of an HDD in the beginning.
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