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im currently on the edge of whether or not to delid, i want to but not sure about the possiblility of not having a warranty if something were to go wrong at a later date. also not sure which method is best. i like the razor blade method becuase you have much more control, but ive also heard that the vice method is better for haswell because of the caps being so close to the glue. i did not get a great chip, currently i need 1.325v to run at 4.4ghz, if you need them i can get screenshots of my bios. i am currently running an xspc rs360 750l kit with the raystorm block, and it hits about 85-86c on the hottest core in prime95 and IBT. i have not tryed to go any higher as i dont want any hotter temps, but i would like to get 4.6 or 4.8 both of which was easy on my 2500k. i want you guys to sway me to delid or not to delid. according to the guy from intel i talked to delidding does void your warranty but its still up to the tester/inspector as to whether it will be replaced.. im leaning towards the razor blade method only because im a bit hesitant to use a hammer on a cpu. i currently have a maximus hero and 2x8gb gskill ripjaws 2400(blue heatsink).
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post #2 of 17
Vice method is definitely a better method for Haswell because the resistors are very close to the heatspreader.
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What is your VCCIN/VRIN/Eventual Input Voltage? You might just not be OCing haswell properly. It quite different from previous generations. I suggest reading this thread and make sure you know what you are doing. Delidding is definitely great if you want to lower temps or achieve a higher clock, but if you already have a bad clocking chip, what's the point?
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I was on the fence about de-lidding, mostly because I am a bit of a klutz. As razor blades scare me, I tried the vice method and whacked the bejeesus out of the cpu 10 or 15 times, but the IHS wouldn't budge. So I was forced to use a razor blade, and it actually turned out to be not that hard. If you start on the right side of the cpu and visualise where the resistors are so that you don't insert the razor blade too deeply on the left side, you shouldn't have a problem.

I got a nice drop in temperatures so would recommend this if you are prepared to take the risk.
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What is your VCCIN/VRIN/Eventual Input Voltage? You might just not be OCing haswell properly. It quite different from previous generations. I suggest reading this thread and make sure you know what you are doing. Delidding is definitely great if you want to lower temps or achieve a higher clock, but if you already have a bad clocking chip, what's the point?
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post #7 of 17
definitely delid my 3770k is still running strong at 4.8ghz at 1.35v for a year now

I just retested using ibt to check for stability and temps and it actually dropped lower than when I first tested this overclock and temps a year ago
Edited by enigma7820 - 1/16/14 at 7:34pm
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could i get some help overclocking, not sure im doing everything right. i delidded on saturday and used Colllaboratory liquid pro and my load temps have only dropped like 5c. maybe i didnt spread it right, i only spread is on the die because i couldnt get it to stick to the underside of the ihs. and i used mx4 on the topside of the ihs.i also updated to the 1301 bios and it now uses 1.36v under load vs only 1.344 on the 1203 bios im pretty sure i used the same settings but i didnt check it with my screenshots from 1203. its still set for 1.325 vcore and 1.92 initial.
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post #9 of 17
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics

Check out that thread, ton of others posting good info and sharing experiences.

Iirc you need to turn off speedstep, c-states and those power saving features if you are going to set manual settings
  
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post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics

Check out that thread, ton of others posting good info and sharing experiences.

Iirc you need to turn off speedstep, c-states and those power saving features if you are going to set manual settings

He's right, this is a great guide. Occasionally you get people like this INCREDIBLEHULK guy that just does nothing for the thread ( I keed, I keed I actually value the discussion you bring), but other wise it is a great place to learn about OCing Haswell.

You don't need to turn off speedstep or c-states, at least I didn't when I was overclocking. Although it can't hurt to turn off c-states while OCing, just make sure and turn them on after you have found stable settings.

EDIT: One quick thing. Just saw your pictures.
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You don't change initial input voltage. You want to change eventual. leave initial to auto.
Edited by jameyscott - 1/19/14 at 11:03pm
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