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post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by Rollergold View Post

Yes you are mixing metals. Using sliver with EK nickel plated parts I think voids the warranty as well. If you use an coolant with corrosion inhibitor like EK or Koolance's premix or add an corrosion inhibitor to your water you should be fine for 6-12 months.

the silver and nickle thing... much debate over this and IF it was a major issue 1) a LOT of vets would have trouble waaaaaay too often and 2) EK would not support warranty even if you use silver kill coil. Using a kill coil DOES NOT void warranty. They just suggest not to use it (mainly because they are doing the CYA thing after their last fiasco with shoddy plating.

You either have caused damaged by using the wrong coolant (never use automotive coolants as mentioned above) or there was shoddy plating on there in the first place (which if it was an EK block does not surprise me even to this day when they say they do it different. They were far too eager to blame users than accept they messed up)

From a thread yesterday, and EKWB rep (bit of a .... well... you'll see) stated they will still honor warranty. However, using the wrong coolant was not addressed, and THAT may void it in the end
Edited by Buzz247 - 1/28/14 at 3:09pm
post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by Rollergold View Post

Yes you are mixing metals. Using sliver with EK nickel plated parts I think voids the warranty as well. If you use an coolant with corrosion inhibitor like EK or Koolance's premix or add an corrosion inhibitor to your water you should be fine for 6-12 months.
You are thinking of Koolance warranty policy. Also if it was such a bad thing to use silver, I would think that a major manufacturer IE Aquacomputer, would not make a silver waterblock.
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by jblanc03 View Post

Guys!

If i am not mixing metals will Zerex

I am not 100% SURE WHETHER I AM MIXING METALS OR NOT.

i think the EK MotherBoard water blocks for the Rampage IV Extreme are Nickel. I am using a combination of silver and chrome bitspower fittings in my rig along with Koolance Quick Disconnects (QDCs)

So like i said i am not sure..

We are all mixing metals:

This is what we all have in a normal brass radiator with solder:
corrosion1.jpg

Can it fail with just water, sure can. I lost this SR1 to nothing more than plain water sitting when the Tin reacted with brass:
corrosion3.jpg

And is nickel copper mixing metals?
It sure the heck is:

corrosionplating.png

The thicker the plating the longer it takes to corrode, but the science is all right there, we are mixing metals and galvanic potential is there..corrosion will happen..just a matter of how fast and how thick the metals are to resist it.

Similar is NOT the same. Aluminum + Copper has a much higher potential but we still have potential.
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Okay OP.
You and I have has our little run-in but I assure you this post is written with no ill intent.

It's generally accepted that mixing metals is a bad idea. But what constitutes mixing metal, that is a different beast.
To many here, as long as you don't have any aluminum in your loop, than you are safe.

To me, not mixing metals means no nickel plating, no chrome, and no silver. Hell, if I could replace all my brass fittings for copper ones, I would do so but copper is just too soft for that.. So I am stuck with mixing brass and copper, which is never the less pretty safe for a WC loop.

However, I just don't understand the trend to have everything nickel plated with all the corrosion and flaking issues going around. What's wrong with a nice shiny polushed copper block? I just don't know.
But I understand others will disagree with me here. That's okay. They might be right, I don't wish to start a debate over this.

As for additives, if you are having corrosion issues you obvioysly need additives. But keep in mind that all additives will reduce cooling performance. Having said that, you still might need to use additives.

That Valvoline stuff, I never heard of it in the 15 years I have been WCing. So I have no real opinion of it, except to say that their claim to improve heat transfer is highly dubious. Could be a good innibitor, but it's not a performance enhancer for sure.

I suggest you try Mayhem's innibitor. I think it's called X1 if my memory serves me right. That one has been tried and tested by many WCers and I frankly trust it more.

As for nickel chips getting into your pump, if that worries you, you can buy a strainer like fitting at FrozenPC.you put just ahead of your pump. That should stop your WCing cold sweat nightmares.

Cheers and good luck with your nickel plating issue.
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