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ok guys thanks am back the office rigs are mostly all for encoding purposes, so the raw cpu power is needed... as far as graphics go, as long as I can do my usual dual screen am all good... I don't play much games on the home computer... I will do the occasional video editing/graphics/encoding if need be, but videos not so much... although it'd be nice to get as high a score as I can heheh...

aside for video games, is there much reasons for me to go watercool the card, (like lower the overall heat of the inside of the case which in turn helps the rest), or I should just think I might as well do it if I can?

what about other components like mem or hd, anything suggested there? I do have a 4x750gb raid array to share my music/videos over my home network as well as 2x raptors I will put in for the OS...

thanks again! am gonna go do some reading about TEC now and read those two guides as well
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I would just air cool the GPU unless you are OC'ing them, maybe get some little slot coolers for them....HDD's and memory the same, good air should be plenty....If your case temp's are to high look at improving your case air flow, a lot cheaper then WC'ing all of it.... Unless you want to put it on it's own loop just for the fun of it or something....
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one more thing, the pump and all, does it draw the power from the power supply? didn;t think about that, wondering if my 500w noisetaker is gonna be good enough now
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one more thing, the pump and all, does it draw the power from the power supply? didn;t think about that, wondering if my 500w noisetaker is gonna be good enough now

Yeah they do the Laing D-5 and DDC both do...You can get 120V pumps and hook them up with a re-lay to come on with your PSU...I'd just get a bigger PSU though.....If you do get a Pelt you need a little Meanwell dedicated PSU just for it...
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peltiers look like a lot of fun, but also a lot of work to get going right... how easy would it be for me to get used to the whole watercooling deal, see what I can do, then order out the parts for peltier later on?

IE if I am to get the stinger v6, would it be big enough for me to use it with the peltier setup for the cpu?


so far this seems to be what I could get easily as far as parts go from my usual provider and from what I was recommended... any tips?

-Swiftech MCP655 Pump
- 3x Tygon R-3603 3/8IN ID 5/8IN OD Tubing 5 Feet (will this work? I like the idea of smaller for more ease when bending)
- radiator : The Black Ice® GT Stealth 360 (any comments here? where do we mount these usually? here I need more info)
- CPU block : everyone seems sold on the stinger v6, so there we go need to know about usability with tec with that one
- Danger Den Single Bay Reservoir 5.25IN 1/2IN Barbs
clamps?

anythng else?
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peltiers look like a lot of fun, but also a lot of work to get going right... how easy would it be for me to get used to the whole watercooling deal, see what I can do, then order out the parts for peltier later on?

IE if I am to get the stinger v6, would it be big enough for me to use it with the peltier setup for the cpu?


so far this seems to be what I could get easily as far as parts go from my usual provider and from what I was recommended... any tips?

-Swiftech MCP655 Pump
- 3x Tygon R-3603 3/8IN ID 5/8IN OD Tubing 5 Feet (will this work? I like the idea of smaller for more ease when bending)
- radiator : The Black Ice® GT Stealth 360 (any comments here? where do we mount these usually? here I need more info)
- CPU block : everyone seems sold on the stinger v6, so there we go need to know about usability with tec with that one
- Danger Den Single Bay Reservoir 5.25IN 1/2IN Barbs
clamps?

anythng else?
That would really be a good idea to wait until you have WC down pat before setting up a Pelt rig.....I'm starting to set up a Pelt rig myself...You will need a Pelt that is 50x50mm or 2x2" to use with a Stinger...I just ordered a 320W one with those dimensions today and intend to use it with a Stinger block I see no reason that it would not work well with one...

I would for sure go with 7/16" x 5/8" tubing and use 1/2" fittings throughout your loop...The Stinger has 1/2" barbs and you would need step down barbs to use it with 3/8" tubing..The 1/2" will give you better flow also.It's easier to route around in your case and flows about as well as 1/2" tubing...Use automotive worm drive clamps....Get 10-15' ft...Danger Den :: Tubing :: Tubing and Clamps :: 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing

I and a lot of people hang our rads on the back of the case with one of these..The GTS is not a bad rad..Swiftech MCB-120 Black 120mm Radbox Kit

Coolant... Fluid XP is good and is non-conductive for a while...I would suggest it for your first loop...It comes in various colors also....Fluid XP EXT Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant - UV Midnight Blue 32oz.
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post #17 of 23
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okthanks for the info man

the clamps (plastic) they sell at danger den, do they do the job ?

I also pretty much get access to all the black ice products... any tips in what/how to choose them?

http://www.ncix.com/search/?q=black+...ice=Max.+Price


and now that I got all the parts figured out pretty much, any other tips I should follow or recommendations?

and I read some about shrouds... really needed or something I should consider? if I go with the black ice with the 2-3 fans, what about shrouds?
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okthanks for the info man

the clamps (plastic) they sell at danger den, do they do the job ?

I also pretty much get access to all the black ice products... any tips in what/how to choose them?

http://www.ncix.com/search/?q=black+...ice=Max.+Price


and now that I got all the parts figured out pretty much, any other tips I should follow or recommendations?

and I read some about shrouds... really needed or something I should consider? if I go with the black ice with the 2-3 fans, what about shrouds?
Phil
Since you will probably want to use a Pelt with this later on you might want to consider getting a 360 GTX, it would have a lot better cooling then the GTS with a Pelt...You want a 2 pass rad...X-Flows are supposed to have less restriction the a 2 pass, but from all the tests I've seen they are about the same...X-Flow has a barb on each end of the rad and 2 pass has them both on the same end......I would go with 89-115cfm 120x38mm Sunnons or Panaflo fans on them...They have good air pressure to pull air through the rad more effectively...Have 3 of them pulling through the rad..A shroud will help a lot, a fan has a do-nut shape air current...Standing it off the rad some helps close the hole in the middle....1/2"-1-1/2" are the thickness most people use...I usually go about 3/4" on mine, seems to work OK......You need to clean it before you use it to...Mix 10% white vinegar with 90% distilled water...Put it in your rad for 24 hours, shake it up a few times also...Pour it out and rinse with distilled water till you cant smell vinegar anymore...You will usually get some kind of white looking crap out of it...I don't know what it is, flux or leak testing crud or what....Soak your water blocks the same way, take them apart first, just do them for a few minutes though...Look for any metal shaving or other crud in them while you have them apart.....
Burn just put his Pelt rig together...You might like to read through it...I've learned a lot about them by following it.... Project: TEC Lian-Li - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

This is the Rad I was talking about.....NCIX.com - Buy HW Labs Black Ice GT Xtreme 360 Triple 120MM Water Cooling Radiator Black 1/2IN Barbs - RAD-3430 In Canada.
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only prob I see with what you recommend is I'll have 3 fans of 34-40DB buzing outside of my case... I'm also trying to get as quiet and performance driven setup as possible, so the 80-100cfp pannies might be a little too noisy for me... for a quiet setup, what would you suggest?

or does the gtx scale up the voltage to the fans when needed ?(ie could I have them run at 800rpm instead of 2000 and NOT hear them if I must?)


finally, thinking of perhaps resting this bad boy on TOP of my case as the p180 has a fan on top of the case I could just unmount and use to enter the tubes in the case or what not (and since heat goes up, it would easily dissipate)

any recommendations with that? Phil
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Well the thicker rad's just need higher cfm fans to operate at there best...I guess you could just put them on a rheostat and turn them down when not needed...Maybe just go with the GTS 360, that is what Burn is using in the build log that I linked you to....It would be more effiecent with lower cfm fans..Just go with 100+ fans rheo them and crank them up when needed...

If you mount the rad to the top of your case I would use a T-Line or Fil-Port rather then a Res...That way you could pull the T-Line up higher then the rad to bleed it.....
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