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First things first, nothing is off the table. Anything could potentially show up at any time.


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Apparently the power button can be a bit dodgy but it might just be early samples, also metal is thin and weedy (compared with lets say Fractal design) and the bottom plastic hard drive trays aren't hot swap but other than that it looks like an average case
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Overall, we are pleased with how the Corsair 250D performs and especially given its price.
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does anyone know if the gtx 780ti classified will fir in the 250D - its height is about 150.88mm
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does anyone know if the gtx 780ti classified will fir in the 250D - its height is about 150.88mm

I don't believe so. From the pictures I've seen there's barely enough room to fit the reference 780 with the PCI cables attached.
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There's ALWAYS some compromise, somewhere. Despite my "Mini ITX without compromise" tagline. Why only one 5.25" bay? We could have easily put two in if we just grew the case another two inches.

Why only a thin radiator? Why only 120mm side fans? Why only 290mm long GPUs?

At some point, you have to say "this is what will fit the MAJORITY of our target customer". If you really want to build a DIY watercooling system, then Mini ITX isn't the world's best form factor for you. If you love a challenge, then do it. The goal for the 250D was to fit the most common components a mid tower user would have in their case and give them a smaller form factor for it.

You guys that want the really, really small Mini ITX cases - I'm sorry, but having built a few of them, it's a god damned nightmare to put everything together in most of them and our #1 goal is making the build experience fun. Remove frustration from our shared hobby. So going smaller wasn't in the cards this round. There's other stuff on the roadmap that makes it more worthwhile down the road, but right now, there are some very large components that need to be shrunken before we can make a small form factor case that's fun and easy to build in as well as useful.

That being said, no case is for everyone. Feel free to buy whatever you like. As witnessed by the reviews of the 250D yesterday, there ARE plenty of people who really like the chassis and building in it. I think that we can't be everything to everyone on every product.

im sure im not the only one who was excited until they looked at the amount of space given for a 240mm radiator and felt let down, it almost feels like it was done intentionally to steer people into buying your AIO units, which there is nothing wrong with, business is business. but it looks like it could have easily been designed to fit slightly thicker radiators for custom loops if the side panel was not inverted, thats without changing the actual dimensions.

where there is a will there is a way and im sure people will cut these things up to fit what they want, im just surprised after that huge thread asking what people want one of the top requests was kind of half assed into the design.

can you give us the measurement from the side fan mounts to the leading edge of the motherboard? im wondering if the 5.25 bay was removed would it give enough clearance for a 30mm radiator. or is the motherboard also the limiting factor on radiator thickness.
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im sure im not the only one who was excited until they looked at the amount of space given for a 240mm radiator and felt let down, it almost feels like it was done intentionally to steer people into buying your AIO units, which there is nothing wrong with, business is business. but it looks like it could have easily been designed to fit slightly thicker radiators for custom loops if the side panel was not inverted, thats without changing the actual dimensions.

This is my biggest problem with it. It was made for a thin radiator, but unfortunate only the thinnest of thin it seems and the H100/i units being only 27mm thick ( according to corsairs site ) beat out any standard 30mm radiator ( which normally measure in at 29 or 31'ish usually ). Only really disappointing part of the whole case in my opinion. The point was suppose to be big and "no compromise" but seems like it compromised just enough to make custom loops not worth it unless you're into doing some work.
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where there is a will there is a way and im sure people will cut these things up to fit what they want, im just surprised after that huge thread asking what people want one of the top requests was kind of half assed into the design.

can you give us the measurement from the side fan mounts to the leading edge of the motherboard? im wondering if the 5.25 bay was removed would it give enough clearance for a 30mm radiator. or is the motherboard also the limiting factor on radiator thickness.

As far as I can tell the limiting factor is the motherboard ultimately ( all the shots I've seen of it have one of the ASUS boards with the VRM daughter board ) and it just marginally misses it. Along with reviewers measuring the space.

Skip to 4:05 for the H100/i then wait for 5:05 for her fitting a 30mm rad and saying she had to force it and it made some horrible noises making it fit, and it does touch the motherboard... With the right motherboard, it may be feasible... But myself having both the ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe as well as the ASUS MAXIMUS VI IMPACT, I would be afraid to force them in with the same VRM daughter boards...




Edited by Shrak - 1/26/14 at 8:24pm
post #38 of 41
First time poster here. I feel the need to echo some of the sentiments above. I've been looking for a decent "no compromises" mini-ITX-case, and was initially very impressed by the Obsidian 250D. It seemed to have the features I was looking for, even if makes a bit more sense for me, convection wise, to tip it on it's side, but that's another story. Nevertheless, it was a bit of a struggle to figure exactly what sort of radiator support the case had, and I was very disappointed to learn that the dual 120 mm radiator support that most reviews and the official sales pitch touts is, practically speaking, untrue. Truth is that the case is built to support the Corsair H100, and practically speaking no other normal radiator. That's a perfectly reasonable thing to do for Corsair, and it might make business sense, but I wish it was made clearer in reviews and the available documentation.

This is a massive let down for me. This could've been such a cool machine and I like the overall layout. I just wish Corsair would have allowed us to do custom liquid cooling loops in the case without trying to make things hard for us. I know that custom loops in small cases are never going to be easy, but that is part of the fun, part of the challenge; this restriction just seems so arbitrary and yet so deliberate. We're talking about allowing for a few more millimetres of room, and that's why it upsets me.

I'm still considering building a 250D; I'm thinking about using 20 mm deep fans, or if it's possible to mod the side of the case slightly, or maybe even going for positive pressure and using no fans on the dual 120 mm radiator. But this has become more of a mental challenge for now, where before I had practically decided to buy the case.
Edited by Souperhans - 4/1/14 at 5:39am
post #39 of 41
You can do a custom loop though:

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/118204-green-hornet-250d-finished-hq-pics-added/



Just 2 examples I found from looking it up online for 5 min.
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Will look good under,my 4k tv 😁
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