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post #1841 of 7890
I think they have more Errata er something with the ES chips. I could be totally wrong though
     
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Never mind, I just read that if you buy a ES it is still not yours, and always belongs to Intel. I also read that Intel may be willing to send you a brand new equivalent in trade for the ES version that legally still belongs to them.

Quoted from Intels website: SOURCE
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What are Intel engineering sample processors?

Intel Engineering Sample Processors ("Intel ES Processors"), also known as Intel Qualification Sample Processors, are pre-production processors loaned to Intel's Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), Original Device Manufacturers (ODMs), and Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) to be used in the product design cycle prior to product launch.

These processors often include additional features that production processors do not include for customer pre-production evaluation and test purposes. The following conditions apply to Intel ES Processors:

Intel ES Processors are the sole property of Intel
Intel ES Processors are Intel Confidential
Intel ES Processors are provided by Intel under nondisclosure and/or special loan agreement terms with restrictions on the recipient's handling and use
Intel ES Processors are not for sale or re-sale
Intel ES Processors may not have passed commercial regulatory requirements
ES Processors are not covered under Intel warranty and are generally not supported by Intel
How do I identify Intel ES processors?

The easiest way to tell if you have an Intel ES Processor is to look at the processor topside markings. If you have a 4 or 5 digit Q spec listed like the one pictured below, you have an engineering sample. A production processor will have a 5 digit sSpec, usually beginning with S, such as SLB9L on the topside markings.

If no ink or laser markings are found, the processor may be an "unmarked" Intel ES Processor. Contact Intel if you are in possession of an unmarked Intel ES Processor.

The Intel® Processor Identification Utility can also be used to help identify whether a particular processor is an Intel ES processor.

Once you install and run Processor ID on an Intel ES Processor, the following message will appear in the text box:

"The following Intel processor appears to be an engineering sample, not a production processor. The utility is designed to support Intel production processors only. Sample processors are not warranted by Intel and are not intended for resale."

Can I get Intel ES processors from Intel?

Due to the pre-production nature of Intel ES Processors, they are generally only loaned by Intel to Intel's Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs), Original Device Manufacturers (ODMs), and Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) for pre-production test and evaluation work under specific contractual terms and conditions that assure the protection of Intel's assets and confidential information.

Intel ES Processors are not made available to the general public by Intel.

Contact your vendor or place of purchase if you have received an Intel ES Processor in place of a production processor.

If you have additional questions or concerns, please contact Intel Customer Support, using one of the methods below:

Contact Intel Customer Support
e-mail Intel Technical Support: supportmail.intel.com
Intel Corporate Security Investigations - corporate.security@intel.com

This applies to:

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So, now my interest has completely dissolved, lol... But I wonder if I was to purchase it if Intel would trade it for a new x5675? double hmmm

Anyway, the way I read this is, that it is stolen property and must be returned to Intel? Is that what this means?

Here is an interesting thread over at the Intel forums about reporting such illegal sales of their property.
https://communities.intel.com/thread/26542
It does not look like they take it very seriously, LOL...
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post #1843 of 7890
Hello everybody,

I just received my new x5650 on my sabertooth x58 and i have few questions (sorry for my bad english) :

When i go to the bios, in the cpu ratio setting, the max is only x22 and no x23 like cpu-z show me.
Moreever, the multiplicateur jump of 20x to 22x. i have no 21x, is it normal ?

Thx for you help.
I wish you a good day.

Urik
post #1844 of 7890
Yes, it's normal

EDIT:

To the above note of Es cpu's i owned a lot of ES cpu's. My ES 990X..... was the scariest CPU i ever owned. I obtained it via ebay, and found out that when i started OC'ing..... it just laid into high overclocks. My last OC on that chip was somewhere in the 6GHZ range using direct phasechange cooling with a 50amp 220v airconditioner compressor... I will see if i can find my validation for it. I later damaged it going for 6.5 ghz.


Edited by GENXLR - 10/20/14 at 1:51am
post #1845 of 7890
Hello all,

What are the max Vcore, Max QPI and the recommanded uncore (x1,8 or x2 ?) for a x5650 ?
Edited by Urikain - 10/20/14 at 10:18am
post #1846 of 7890
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Originally Posted by Urikain View Post

Hello everybody,
I just received my new x5650 on my sabertooth x58 and i have few questions (sorry for my bad english) :
When i go to the bios, in the cpu ratio setting, the max is only x22 and no x23 like cpu-z show me.

That's because the x23 is only for 2 cores @ Idle or when only 2 cores are being used with C-states enabled. The max you can set is 22x in the BIOS for the X5650.
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Moreever, the multiplicateur jump of 20x to 22x. i have no 21x, is it normal ?

Yes.

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Hello all,

What are the max Vcore, Max QPI and the recommanded uncore (x1,8 or x2 ?) for a x5650 ?

Max Vcore = 1.35v
Max QPI voltage = anything less than 1.4v. Preferably less than 1.35v
Max QPI freq = Auto is just fine. You'll have to test some different settings to check performance and stability.
Uncore= 2x for stability in my test, but these Xeons are 1.8x by default. You can't go wrong with either in all of my testing and overclocks. So 1.8x - 2x is safe and stable.
    
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post #1847 of 7890
So 5.0GHz all cores seems to be impossible to get stable at .Maybe I have a chance with 4.8 but I need proper Bios settings but I am not good enough with OCing.So Anyone got stable @ 4.8 all cores ? if yes please share your BIOS settings. My CPU is x5675 with x25 multiplier for all cores.
post #1848 of 7890
Thx Kana-Maru for the precicions.

Other question : tweaking IOH/ICH voltages and clock is useful ? if yes when to tweak this values ?
post #1849 of 7890
From what I've found the uncore multiplier doesn't matter as long as you stay around 3800 for stability. Anything higher will depend on your motherboard.

IOH is the NB voltage and might increase your stability if you're running multiple gpus. At 4.6ghz I left my IOH at stock 1.1v. ICH controls your peripherals and sata controllers. Increasing it might help if you're running a high oc or high blck. On my L5639 4GHz I had it on stock but for my 4.6ghz 5650 I needed 1.2v for stability.
post #1850 of 7890
Thx a lot Agenesis.

I have a x5650 also and im running SLI. I have stability issue for 4.4 ghz with 220 BCLK.

Maybe increase IOH and ICH voltage help me.

Can you share your bios setting for 4.6ghz ? My mother board is a sabertooth x58.
Edited by Urikain - 10/21/14 at 5:52am
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