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Kana, right now I just ran IBT and it completed as opposed to blue screen but said it was unstable. I have it at 175 bclk, 21x but it seems to automatically go up to 23x according to cpu-z, which gives me 4015mhz so 4ghz smile.gif The vcore I had set at 1.275 QPI at 1.30 DIMM at 1.60 I'm about to up the voltage a touch as temp only hit 51c under a Corsair H80i. If I can get this stable I might be satisfied with 4.0 as that's what I was getting from the 2.8 ghz i7 930 but it was sucking down 1.35v vcore iirc btw turbo is on, speedstep on cstate set to off
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Alright let me know what happens. Is you RAM rated to run at 1.60v? I've usually only see 1.5v and 1.65v. Also the x23 multiplier is odd. With the X5660 you should get x24 if you have EIST+Turbo+C-States enabled. Otherwise you should have a static multiplier. Does your multiplier drop lower than x21 when Idle?

If you want to run a few test and everything you can set your multiplier to [Auto] - 175 BCLK, then try to run with CPU voltage 1.32v. Set the RAM to 1.65v and 9-9-9-24. In windows check CPU-Z to make sure it says 1.32v. Make sure EIST\Turbo\C-States are enabled. I guess everything else can be set to Auto.
    
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Ok, finally stable. Got the CPU stable at 175 bclk turbo is on, cpu-z reads 4015 MHz and shows a 23x multiplier even though I can only set it to 21x in BIOS,1.282vcore, 1.35v qpi vtt, 1.65v memory, 10x memory multi (1753mhz) 11-11-11-29 2t (Dominator 1600mhz RAM) and passed IBT. I need to test whether it performs better with memory oc w looser timings or slightly under clocked with 7-8-7-21 tight timings. Multi drops to 12x during idle/light use. That's all for now I have a date lol
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Well I am running 2-Way SLI so that helps. The X5660 just gives the GPUs more than enough.
Oh so you finally found my single core test in the review eh? :thumb.gif:. I probably should've used CinebenchR11.5 & Cinebench R15 instead of R10 single core. I'm sure I still have my L5639 Single Core score for R11.5+R15.

Yeah, I was at work when I posted originally. I didn't have time to sit down and read all 500 posts. When I got home I went through it and found a lot more info. So many programs and games are still only making use of 4 threads that the 12 threads that these CPUs offer is often not used anywhere near its potential. That was my reason for wondering the single core performance. If per-core performance is lacking, everyday tasks and lightly threaded apps will suffer. It looks like your X5660 at 4.8 is about 15% faster than my 920 at 4.2. Clock for clock they should be pretty comparable. I was worried that the 5650 would be significantly weaker.
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As I've said the 4770K just smashes everything in single core test across the board. It's very efficient and is 52% quick than your i7-960. Your single thread is quicker than the L5639, but the L5639 has more cache and more cores so it wins by default [and even at a lower clock than the Quads].

All thought your i7-920 is faster than the L5639 in the older CinebenchR10 test the L5639, the L5639@4.1 stomps it by 34% overall making it more efficient period. [multi-core = complete CPU, not just one core].
Hey post your CinebenchR11.5 and R15 single scores as well. Can I get your RAM timing CPU-Z shot as well?


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It looks like your X5660 at 4.8 is about 15% faster than my 920 at 4.2. Clock for clock they should be pretty comparable. I was worried that the 5650 would be significantly weaker.

My L5639 is 34% faster than your i7-920. My X5660 is 55% faster than your i7-920. GPU performance wise the Hex cores will easily run high end games at stock smoother vs a highly overclocked Quad. Of course that depends on your GPU and what graphical settings you have enabled. I'm speaking maxed. My lower clocked X5660 @4Ghz with 1400Mhz RAM is 44.18% faster than your i7-920 @ 4.2Ghz.

As far as single core goes to Haswell-4770K. It's the best one on the market right now as far as I know. So does that mean that the i7-4770K is going to outperform a i7-3930K? Heck no. You can take the single core scores for what they are worth, but I can definitely see the difference with my L5639 and X5660.

So I still have my L5639 single core data. Let's compare really quick since I'm in a bit of a rush:


Cinebench R11.5
i7-920@4.2 - DDR3-1600Mhz = 1.46 pts
L5639@4.1 - DDR3-1333Mhz = 1.41 pts

The i7-920 single core score is 3.5% higher. The multi-core score favors the L5639 by 34%. No contest. I gladly spent a measly $75 on the L5639 and wouldn't think twice about a i7-920 budget Quad.

Moving on to R15

Cinebench R15
i7-920@4.2 - DDR3-1600Mhz = 129 cb
L5639@4.1 - DDR3-1333Mhz = 125 cb

The i7-920 single core is only 3.2% fast than L5639, even less than R11.5. The multi-core score still favors the Xeon L5639 by nearly 48% over the i7-920. No contest. My $75 was well spent compared to the budget Quad. Even when compared to my i7-960 there is no contest. The Quads can't even come close to the overall performance and that includes gaming as well as other tasks like video rendering\compression etc.


I'll load up some games and max them out starting with older titles like Bad Company 2 and so on. I guess I'll try out Batman: Arkham Asylum and the other Batman titles as well. I'm not sure how well the UE3 engines will run with multi cores so I'll definitely have to try different game engines. I'll have to get around to running the CPU test to see how many cores and threads are utilized during gameplay and\or benchmarks. From what I've seen a lot of the game benefit from Hexa-cores for several reasons and single core usage isn't one of those reasons. If the game truly only use 4 threads I'll check and see. In the meantime you can clearly see the difference from a overclocked Hex vs a stock\lower clocked Hex.

Edit: I'm not sure why a lot of my test are bold, but overclock.net hasn't worked well with firefox for weeks now.

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Any insight if I should run a 2:8 memory multi and tight timings on my ram @14xx MHz or 2:10 multi on the ram with looser timings at 17xx MHz? I'm probably not 100% done tweaking as I think I can do 4.2 stable with a bit of fine tuning
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My L5639 is 34% faster than your i7-920. The X5660 is 55% faster than your i7-920. GPU performance wise the Hex cores will easily run high end games at stock smoother vs a highly overclocked Quad. Of course that depends on your GPU and what graphical settings you have enabled. I'm speaking maxed. My lower clocked X5660 @4Ghz with 1400Mhz RAM is 44.18% faster than your i7-920 @ 4.2Ghz.

For like the 35th time, I'm talking about single core performance. redface.gif

You've already listed plenty of benches showing that a 4.8 ghz 12 thread processor gets really high scores in synthetic benchmarks that use all available CPU resources. Yes, we know that. Unfortunately not many programs are going to use your CPU to it's full capability like cinebench will, hence the importance of it's single core performance and the reason why I have been researching it. The overwhelming majority of programs still only use 4 or fewer threads....not 12. In this situation, remember this is the overwhelming majority of the time, your extra 8 threads will make no difference. When you are relying on 4 threads, the individual performance really matters. When you are relying on 12, not so much because the same work is spread over more workers.

You are acting as if the fact that these CPUs score so high in benchmarks that utilize all 12 threads, that their lightly threaded performance doesn't matter. That's like saying that a Formula 1 race car is perfect for driving around the city and going to work because it goes really fast on a racetrack. I'm not trying to prove the 920 is better, I know it's not. I'm trying to show you that running a heavily threaded benchmark and declaring "My CPU is xx% faster" doesn't really make any sense in real world applications. How many games do you think are using 12 threads? You're looking at one side of a two sided coin. The single core performance is just as important as fully threaded performance because of the fact that so many programs only utilize so much. It would show much less bias in your thread if you included this info in your tests. More info is never a bad thing.

I put an offer in on an X5650 on ebay. The first guy sent me a counteroffer for $1 less than his original buyout, I declined. I put in another offer to another seller and have not heard anything back yet, it's been almost a day..
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I think your missing also the added allowable overhead it can handle due to the 2 extra physical cores which allows the utilized cores to work at full capacity.
    
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