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post #5371 of 7923
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghabhaducha View Post

No the hybrid sleep option is in Windows power settings.

Edit~ Are you saying that you don't have that option in power settings, as a RESULT of your board?

Nope, assumed it had something to do with the bios itself, will have to look into that setting, see if it helps at all with my wake up times.

Nvm, hybrid sleep is a mix of sleep and hibernate from what I read and should have nothing to do with my issue. Oh well, it has been the only downside of this platform so I guess I can't complain.
Edited by webhito - 10/22/15 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by ghabhaducha View Post

Hey guys, I figured the sleep issue on X58. Just disabled "Hybrid Sleep" in the Power Settings, and now sleep works like a charm. Thanks for the input.

Not for me. I disabled Hybrid Sleep and Sleep still doesn't work properly. It's not a big problem since I normally Shut Down my PC when I know I'm not going to be using it. If I do accidentally leave it on the power saving features will kick in anyways [C-states and so on].
    
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rolleyes.gif
I'm still trying to get stable 24/7 overclock, but seems something wrong... I can't undestand where the problem is and how to solve it.
I decided to stay at 4.4GHz max to keep VCore under or at 1.4v, also I decided to stay at max 2000 memory to avoid voltages over 1.65-1.66 on it.
Regarding Unclock and looking how it impacts performance but keeping in mind to not go over 1.35 QPI/DRAM I decided to left it in range about 3600-3800.
For mem on 2000 it will be lower than 2x multi, for mem like 1800 it will be 2x multi.

Last 3 days I thought I got my stable overclock but trying to start some tests again always resulted in errors/reboots.
I tried to stablilize 4.4GHz 200x22 1.39 vcore, with 2000-9-10-9-27-1T mem 1.65v, 3800 uncore 1.35v
CPU PLL I had tried was lowest possible 1.2v and default 1.81v

The problem is the following:
I run LinX with 100 iterations with 34000 problem size, it took 10 (!!) hours to complete and shown no errors.
Then I started Prime95 Tortute test with a custom settings (to allow more memory use in test, by default it starts with 2000mb of mem testing):
FFTs range 8 - 4096, mem to use 9216mb, time to test each FFT size 10 min (instead of 3min by default)
It run fine for several hours but then one of the worker threads stopped woth error (rounding 0.5 instead of 0.4)
It's always stop different worker and usually on different FFT size. Today it was 720k.

Could you give me an advice, where I should bump the voltage or maybe down a little?
When I give too low CPU Vcore with settings above, I may survive Linx as long as 5-20 iterations, but then it usually result in a blue screen or just reboots.
in 90% of time of low CPU vcore I get this message in windows logs:
Code:
A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Internal Timer Error
Processor APIC ID: 4

The details view of this entry contains further information.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xffffe00014214038, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\Minidump\102515-6109-01.dmp. Report Id: 102515-6109-01.

It's always give me 0x124 stop code and in 90% of cases with too low vcore voltage the processor APIC ID is 4.

Prime usually stop it's working threads with rounding errors - the more the lower voltage is and very rarely stop with blue screen or reboots. But in case of low QPI/DRAM voltage or too tight timings/high memory freq/uncore it's usually reboots. In most cases it logs the same 0x124 stop error, or logs nothing. But when it logs, the processor APIC ID is unrealistic - it may be 16, 18 etc (while I have only 12 of "CPU" id's)

When I stabilize Linx to pass 100 iterations in about 10-12 hours I may crash in Prime95 after 6-8-12 hours of tests. When I survived in Prime95 for 12+ hours I may crush in LinX... This makes me insane.

How long guys you tested you rigs usually?

Here is my current BIOS template I work with (suggestions highly appreciated!!!):
Code:
Target CPU Frequency          4400MHz
Target DRAM Frequency           2005MHz

LN2 Mode:                       Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration:       Enabled***

AI Overclock Tuner              [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up            [Auto]

2D Performance Booster          [Disabled]
CPU Ratio Setting               [22.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit           [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting               [22.0]
C1E Support                     [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher             [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher  [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering      [Modern]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech    [Enabled]
CPU TM Function                 [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit             [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology          [Enabled]
*Active Processor Cores         [All]
A20M                            [Disabled]
*Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech    [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech           [Disabled]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency                  [200]
PCIE Frequency                  [100]
DRAM Frequency                  [2005]
UCLK Frequency                  [3609]
QPI Link Data Rate              [7218]

Memory Recheck                  [Enabled]
Memory Configuration Protect    [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency                  9 [9]
RAS# to CAS# Delay           10 [10]
RAS# PRE Time                 9 [9]
RAS# ACT Time                27 [27]
RAS# to RAS# Delay            7 [7]
REF Cycle Time              160 [160]
WRITE Recovery Time          14 [14]
READ to PRE Time              8 [8]
FOUR ACT WIN Time            28 [28]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay        0 [Auto]

Timing Mode                  1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA    58 [58]
Round Trip Latency on CHB    60 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHC    61 [61]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD)       6 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR)       6 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR)      19 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD)      10 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR)      10 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR)      10 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD)        7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR)        6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR)        4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD)      7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR)      7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR)      4 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude      [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew                  [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew                  [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode                  [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control               [10V]
Load-Line Calibration           [Full]
CPU Voltage OCP                 [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency               [500KHz]

Extreme OV                      [Disabled]
Extreme OC                      [Auto]

CPU Voltage             1.382   [1.39375]
CPU PLL Voltage         1.204   [1.20575]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage   1.336   [1.34375]
DRAM Bus Voltage        1.640   [1.64300]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA    [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB    [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC    [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage             1.244   [1.24550]
IOH PCIE Voltage        1.508   [1.51050]

ICH Voltage             1.138   [1.13950]
ICH PCIE Voltage                [1.51050]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum             [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum            [Disabled]

My CPU-Z and CPU-Tweaker with settings above:
ODxn3IU.png
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Is anyone in this thread using their xeon x58 beast as an ESX host?
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Did anyone used a 6core xeon on a GA-EX58-UD4?
I have read about lot of people using UD3s and UD5s, but im not sure the the UD4 actually works.
Even if it supports 980x and 990x, some posts online says it might not like 6 core xeons.
But 4 cores xeons somehow are working so, i dunno if that does make any sense
 
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post #5376 of 7923
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Originally Posted by mustek550 View Post

Thank you so much for this article. I was unaware that such an upgrade was possible for my Asus P6T Deluxe V2. Well you guys gave me the confidence to order a Xeon X5660 to replace my I7 920. I just tossed it in today after a quick bios update and she fired right up!!!

Still running at stock speed but I plan to engage warp drive soon. :-)

A few quick bench test related to me.

Cinema 4D R17 Rectangle sample scene. In window render standard settings.

I7 920. 1:20
X5660. 0:51 NICE!


A short video sample in premiere CS 2015.

I7 920. 4:15
X5660. 3:15

Very nice improvements for around $100.


Also Im so happy with this board because I was able to install 2 8GB ram cards. Doubling my memory to 24GB.

I feel like I just bought a brand new PC for cheap.


pretty good, I'm almost identical to you, i have a p6t(Not deluxe), and an i7 920 and i've been waiting to get a 56xx series, just don't want to tear out my mobo and take that stupid cpu cooler backplate off. also got 3 more 2gb sticks to make 12 and still keep tri channel, a gtx 970.. quite the improvements! $250 for a 970, $40 for ram(im actually pushing 7+gb in games with the new card, so it was worth it) and ~100 for whenever i get a new cpu. $400 for upgrades and my pc will be way better than any $500-600 budget build, and prettttttttyyyy close to a new mid range ~1000 build.


just wish I had a mobo with built in wifi, bluetooth and sata3 frown.gif


sorry if this isn't allowed here, anyone have a x56xx for sale? have paypal/live in the US.
post #5377 of 7923
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gre4ka View Post

rolleyes.gif
I'm still trying to get stable 24/7 overclock, but seems something wrong... I can't undestand where the problem is and how to solve it.
I decided to stay at 4.4GHz max to keep VCore under or at 1.4v, also I decided to stay at max 2000 memory to avoid voltages over 1.65-1.66 on it.
Regarding Unclock and looking how it impacts performance but keeping in mind to not go over 1.35 QPI/DRAM I decided to left it in range about 3600-3800.
For mem on 2000 it will be lower than 2x multi, for mem like 1800 it will be 2x multi.

Last 3 days I thought I got my stable overclock but trying to start some tests again always resulted in errors/reboots.
I tried to stablilize 4.4GHz 200x22 1.39 vcore, with 2000-9-10-9-27-1T mem 1.65v, 3800 uncore 1.35v
CPU PLL I had tried was lowest possible 1.2v and default 1.81v

The problem is the following:
I run LinX with 100 iterations with 34000 problem size, it took 10 (!!) hours to complete and shown no errors.
Then I started Prime95 Tortute test with a custom settings (to allow more memory use in test, by default it starts with 2000mb of mem testing):
FFTs range 8 - 4096, mem to use 9216mb, time to test each FFT size 10 min (instead of 3min by default)
It run fine for several hours but then one of the worker threads stopped woth error (rounding 0.5 instead of 0.4)
It's always stop different worker and usually on different FFT size. Today it was 720k.

Could you give me an advice, where I should bump the voltage or maybe down a little?
When I give too low CPU Vcore with settings above, I may survive Linx as long as 5-20 iterations, but then it usually result in a blue screen or just reboots.
in 90% of time of low CPU vcore I get this message in windows logs: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Code:
A fatal hardware error has occurred.
Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Internal Timer Error
Processor APIC ID: 4

The details view of this entry contains further information.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xffffe00014214038, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\Minidump\102515-6109-01.dmp. Report Id: 102515-6109-01.

It's always give me 0x124 stop code and in 90% of cases with too low vcore voltage the processor APIC ID is 4.

Prime usually stop it's working threads with rounding errors - the more the lower voltage is and very rarely stop with blue screen or reboots. But in case of low QPI/DRAM voltage or too tight timings/high memory freq/uncore it's usually reboots. In most cases it logs the same 0x124 stop error, or logs nothing. But when it logs, the processor APIC ID is unrealistic - it may be 16, 18 etc (while I have only 12 of "CPU" id's)

When I stabilize Linx to pass 100 iterations in about 10-12 hours I may crash in Prime95 after 6-8-12 hours of tests. When I survived in Prime95 for 12+ hours I may crush in LinX... This makes me insane.

How long guys you tested you rigs usually?

Here is my current BIOS template I work with (suggestions highly appreciated!!!):
Code:
Target CPU Frequency          4400MHz
Target DRAM Frequency           2005MHz

LN2 Mode:                       Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration:       Enabled***

AI Overclock Tuner              [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up            [Auto]

2D Performance Booster          [Disabled]
CPU Ratio Setting               [22.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit           [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting               [22.0]
C1E Support                     [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher             [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher  [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering      [Modern]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech    [Enabled]
CPU TM Function                 [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit             [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology          [Enabled]
*Active Processor Cores         [All]
A20M                            [Disabled]
*Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech    [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech           [Disabled]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency                  [200]
PCIE Frequency                  [100]
DRAM Frequency                  [2005]
UCLK Frequency                  [3609]
QPI Link Data Rate              [7218]

Memory Recheck                  [Enabled]
Memory Configuration Protect    [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency                  9 [9]
RAS# to CAS# Delay           10 [10]
RAS# PRE Time                 9 [9]
RAS# ACT Time                27 [27]
RAS# to RAS# Delay            7 [7]
REF Cycle Time              160 [160]
WRITE Recovery Time          14 [14]
READ to PRE Time              8 [8]
FOUR ACT WIN Time            28 [28]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay        0 [Auto]

Timing Mode                  1N [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA    58 [58]
Round Trip Latency on CHB    60 [60]
Round Trip Latency on CHC    61 [61]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD)       6 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR)       6 [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR)      19 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD)      10 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR)      10 [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR)      10 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD)        7 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR)        6 [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR)        4 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD)      7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR)      7 [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR)      4 [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude      [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew                  [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew                  [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode                  [T-Balanced]
PWR Volt. Control               [10V]
Load-Line Calibration           [Full]
CPU Voltage OCP                 [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency               [500KHz]

Extreme OV                      [Disabled]
Extreme OC                      [Auto]

CPU Voltage             1.382   [1.39375]
CPU PLL Voltage         1.204   [1.20575]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage   1.336   [1.34375]
DRAM Bus Voltage        1.640   [1.64300]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA    [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB    [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC    [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC    [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage             1.244   [1.24550]
IOH PCIE Voltage        1.508   [1.51050]

ICH Voltage             1.138   [1.13950]
ICH PCIE Voltage                [1.51050]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum             [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum            [Disabled]

My CPU-Z and CPU-Tweaker with settings above:
ODxn3IU.png

Leave the CPU PLL alone. Set it to AUTO [1.8v]. Try lowering your Uncore to 3600Mhz and raise QPI\Vtt 1.36v or 1.37v. Enable "CPU TM Function". If you aren't having any temp problems then leave it disabled if you want. For CPU testing purposes set your RAM to 11-11-11-27 2t or lower the clocks to 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 2t to eliminate the memory. You can try setting IOH and ICH settings to AUTO as well. If you have a "PCI Spectrum" option, try disabling that as well.

For memory be sure to run MemTest86! It's great.
    
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post #5378 of 7923
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gre4ka View Post

rolleyes.gif
I'm still trying to get stable 24/7 overclock, but seems something wrong... I can't undestand where the problem is and how to solve it.
I decided to stay at 4.4GHz max to keep VCore under or at 1.4v, also I decided to stay at max 2000 memory to avoid voltages over 1.65-1.66 on it.
Regarding Unclock and looking how it impacts performance but keeping in mind to not go over 1.35 QPI/DRAM I decided to left it in range about 3600-3800.
For mem on 2000 it will be lower than 2x multi, for mem like 1800 it will be 2x multi.

Last 3 days I thought I got my stable overclock but trying to start some tests again always resulted in errors/reboots.
I tried to stablilize 4.4GHz 200x22 1.39 vcore, with 2000-9-10-9-27-1T mem 1.65v, 3800 uncore 1.35v
CPU PLL I had tried was lowest possible 1.2v and 1.81v

My suggestion is this : set it to 3200 Uncore and test, if still problems set cpu to 4200 or 4000 and test. You should be able to eliminate the error. Looks like you're pushing riiiight to the limit.

Personally I'd set them both down a notch and get on with using it. The likelyhood of you noticing the difference for anything is tiny, meanwhile you could be doing something less stressful wink.gif
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@Gre4ka You should not need 1.38vcore to hit 4.4GHz
     
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before I buy this thing... https://starmicroinc.net/intel-xeon-x5660-2-80ghz-server-oem-cpu-slbv6-at80614005127aa/?gclid=CLGgp4bs4cgCFQOUaQodjBwKqA is the correct model for ocing and all of that right? dunno why it wouldn't be though. and if I want to OC on air, after searching through this thread, a hyper 212 seems ok for high 3ghz range, right?
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