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post #5401 of 7924
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A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Internal Timer Error
Processor APIC ID: 4

The details view of this entry contains further information.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xffffe00014214038, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\Minidump\102515-6109-01.dmp. Report Id: 102515-6109-01.

It's always give me 0x124 stop code and in 90% of cases with too low vcore voltage the processor APIC ID is 4.

Any help? (From i7-950 days)

BSOD codes for overclocking
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT...have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r
Edited by alancsalt - 11/6/15 at 5:43am
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Hi everyone,
All in all if you have a good and tested 1366 mobo do buy a 6-core Xeon, it is a steal!

Any suggestions on how to improve my Cinebench scores are welcome (R11.5@11.15, R15@988), I think that others are getting better results at this frequency.
i did a lot test about the cinebench r15.
it is noticeably dependent on uncore speed.
at about 3.8-4ghz UNCORE speed it will be enough with 4.4ghz (core) to alleviate UNCORE bottleneck . it only stands for cinebenchr15 and 3dmark 11 physics test.
i get 1026 score with 4.4ghz uncore@3.9ghz around. with ram @2000hz timing most probably 10-11-11-34

Edited by mohiuddin - 11/6/15 at 5:48am
post #5403 of 7924
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i did a lot test about the cinebench r15.
it is noticeably dependent on uncore speed.
at about 3.8-4ghz UNCORE speed it will be enough with 4.4ghz (core) to alleviate UNCORE bottleneck . it only stands for cinebenchr15 and 3dmark 11 physics test.
i get 1026 score with 4.4ghz uncore@3.9ghz around. with ram @2000hz timing most probably 10-11-11-34

Thanks for the reply mohiuddin. After my post I played around with uncore. My original post had an UCORE@(2x8)x192=3072MHz. I went up to (2x8+1)x192=3264MHz and now I'm scoring 1001 at Cinebench R15 and 11.21 at Cinebench 11.5. I tried higher values of uncore freq but the PC was not stable and I don't want to raise Vtt any more.
post #5404 of 7924
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^ Congrats. I wouldn't worry about the Cinebench score much if I were you. Compared to the old i7's [as you see] the Xeons will give your 1366 much more performance. Especially when it comes to programs that takes advantage of HT. I'd be careful running the CPU @ 1.34v. Some people CPUs have stopped working after a couple of months while running near the maximum voltage. Unless you know what you are doing and following Intel guidelines you'll more than likely have issue with spiking in the future. It could lead to degrading performance or a dead CPU. However, you are under Intel recommendations, but that still has nothing to do with spiking.

Thanks Kana-Maru! Basically I followed your guideline here as godspell smile.gif :

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/5170#post_24449567

I do have load line calibration enabled, otherwise the voltage would drop at load and the PC would BSOD. However through all my benchmarks I have never seen the voltage go above 1.344V at CPU-Z. Is spiking undetectable from the cpu voltometer?

I plan on keeping this chip for years. The PC is not on 24/7 but enters standby when given the chance. However if you believe, based on your experience, that it would be safer for me to go to e.g. 1.31-1.32V (which would also mean downclocking), then I'll probably do it.

IIRC my Vtt is at 1.32-1.33V. Do you believe that this is too high as well?
post #5405 of 7924
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Thanks for the reply mohiuddin. After my post I played around with uncore. My original post had an UCORE@(2x8)x192=3072MHz. I went up to (2x8+1)x192=3264MHz and now I'm scoring 1001 at Cinebench R15 and 11.21 at Cinebench 11.5. I tried higher values of uncore freq but the PC was not stable and I don't want to raise Vtt any more.
yeah right,. i did it for only short-performance-burst for bench- purpose..
for 3.2ghz uncore , vtt @1.32 is high. on my side, @1.2v vtt uncore 3.3-3.4ghz is stable. for 3.8 i need 1.30-1.32v vtt. it varies a bit with core speed and vcore i guess though.
i am running- 3.8ghz(multi22x) @1.17v vCORE , uncore 3.3ghz @vtt 1.2v, ram 1730mhz 8-9-9-21-1T @1.5v vDRAM gskill ripjaw-1600mhz
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(posted in both threads in case someone is subbed to one and not the other)

So I'm having an issue and I can't seem to figure out what is going on.

I finally got the rig running properly and decided it was time to overclock. Talked to one of the members that had the same mobo as me and he put out a video of his settings.

So I copy all of his settings that are "enable" and "disable" type things, and leave the stock 133MHz Base clock and 22 multiplier (turbo) with voltage on auto (1.184v - 1.2v) and it won't boot, C1 code. C1 is a DRAM code, maybe I need to run memtest, could I possibly have a kinda bad stick of ram that is keeping me from being able to OC? They all seem good and I'm reporting 12GB (3x4GB).

I've tried various things and I can't seem to pin down what the problem is.

I was playing some Skyrim (heavily modded) and the heavy CPU load was making the game all glitchy and slow at only 2.9GHz max.
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post #5407 of 7924
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(posted in both threads in case someone is subbed to one and not the other)

So I'm having an issue and I can't seem to figure out what is going on.

I finally got the rig running properly and decided it was time to overclock. Talked to one of the members that had the same mobo as me and he put out a video of his settings.

So I copy all of his settings that are "enable" and "disable" type things, and leave the stock 133MHz Base clock and 22 multiplier (turbo) with voltage on auto (1.184v - 1.2v) and it won't boot, C1 code. C1 is a DRAM code, maybe I need to run memtest, could I possibly have a kinda bad stick of ram that is keeping me from being able to OC? They all seem good and I'm reporting 12GB (3x4GB).

I've tried various things and I can't seem to pin down what the problem is.

I was playing some Skyrim (heavily modded) and the heavy CPU load was making the game all glitchy and slow at only 2.9GHz max.

By the amount of posts that you have I am pretty sure that you know that each system is different, what he has won´t necessarily work for you. I also play skyrim, but with only a few mods, as well as a ton of other games and have not had any issues at all, besides the extremely slow boot times my motherboard gives me, Does it happen with other games also or is it just that one in particular? My x5650 is at stock as well.

What I would try is setting everything back to default and leave it on auto, try playing the game then and see if it still gives you those issues. It should not give you any boot issues unless you have some other hardware problem/s.
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Thanks Kana-Maru! Basically I followed your guideline here as godspell smile.gif :

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/5170#post_24449567

It's no problem man. I'm glad I was able to help you. I have LLC Disabled on my PC. The drop in vCore is NORMAL behavior. I've been trying to get people to realize this as well. However, when overclocking the "drop" [vDroop] occurs it doesn't give the CPU enough voltage. This is caused by several things. LLC was created for overclocking & enthusiast who didn't want to follow Intel Guidelines...or.....aka complainers who wanted constant voltage period. Which is great, but it does nothing to "protect" or help the CPU from random spikes over time. So when people CPUs die they wonder what happened? Well it could be one of several reasons, but I'm pretty sure it's spiking according to Intel Guidelines.
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I do have load line calibration enabled, otherwise the voltage would drop at load and the PC would BSOD. However through all my benchmarks I have never seen the voltage go above 1.344V at CPU-Z. Is spiking undetectable from the cpu voltometer?

YES SIR! You'll never catch it in a monitor program and if you do it was more than likely an error. You'll need some heavy duty stuff tuned to Intel settings to catch the spiking. Someone posted a website that attempted to "test" or "catch" the spike on X58, but they couldn't see it so they claimed LLC [Enabled] prevented spiking. Which is dumb wrong! The site didn't tune their tools to match Intel standards. So even if you want to check for spiking you'll at the very least need an oscilloscope which can cost a decent amount of money. I also like to remind people that spiking can be negative as well. So when transitioning from a high load [>60%] to Idle can cause a negative spike. Both does nothing to help the CPU, but obviously the higher spikes are what most people are worried about. However, when you remove vDroop protection you are risking degrading anyways.

Another unknown fact is that other components on the MB [other than the CPU] can spike as well. I've never felt the need to tell people this info before, since CPU vCore, PCI, and CPU PLL seems to be the number 1 killer for CPU\MB\RAM\HDDs\SDDs etc.

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I plan on keeping this chip for years. The PC is not on 24/7 but enters standby when given the chance. However if you believe, based on your experience, that it would be safer for me to go to e.g. 1.31-1.32V (which would also mean downclocking), then I'll probably do it.

IIRC my Vtt is at 1.32-1.33V. Do you believe that this is too high as well?

I don't run my PC 24/7 because I shut it down daily. My vCore that I use daily averages 0.992v for light use and never exceeds 1.20v if run heavy CPU loads. I run 4Ghz. I could use even less if I ran 3.8Ghz @ 1.18v max and a even lower Idle voltage. 4Ghz is fine for me given the speed and required voltage. I'm extremely close to the stock voltage @ 4Ghz. I also plan on keeping my CPU for years as well.

1.31v-1.32v would be better for you. Especially since you aren't using any protections with LLC enabled. I think you'd worry less with 1.31v - 1.32v. I only overclock highly when I need to speed for benchmarks CPU and GPUs. Vtt @ 1.32-1.33v is fine.
    
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i emailed them asking what it come from, used, refurbished etc..

"It is new cpu pulled from new machines.

Never used."

interesting, for $80.
did you get your x5660 yet?
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Quick question!

Since I got this board, I only updated to f2 to get the xeon recognized and left it as is, all the other bios updates are beta´s, would anyone suggest updating to the latest or should I just leave it as is? I don´t like beta´s but I am not sure if updating will actually help with the post speed issues I am having. I can see that Bios F3a has 3tb+ support but my f2 recognizes my 4tb drive with no apparent issues, not sure what else updating could help with.
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