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6 sticks of 2gb @ 1333

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231230

that´s the speed its set at in your bios or is it the rated speed of the chips?
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that´s the speed its set at in your bios or is it the rated speed of the chips?

frown.gif

it was set to auto

had a lot of problems just now with ram, I had my multiplier set to 23, with vcore at 1.4 just to test, only had 8gb of ram visible, ended up dropping to 21x192 to leave me right at 4ghz lol, at 1.33 vcore for now.


fudzilla.com/32335-windows-8-rtc-bug-isolated-and-fix

guess that was my issue with h1z1, what an obscure and bs bug with windows 8/10
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dunno if anyone said it yet but x58 don't support intel nvme.

PCIe works just fine in X58, the only problem is that you cannot boot from those devices. To the original question, the 750 works great, but you will still need a regular SATA drive to install your OS to and to boot from.
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PCIe works just fine in X58, the only problem is that you cannot boot from those devices. To the original question, the 750 works great, but you will still need a regular SATA drive to install your OS to and to boot from.

X58 can boot from PCIe, or at least I could on both my X58 Sabertooth and my GA-X58A-OC with the Addonics Quad mSATA PCIe card. I have a pair of 500GB Samsung 850 EVOs on it, eventually I'll get another pair, I don't have any SATA drives plugged into my computer, not even an optical drive. I plan on having 4 hdds in RAID10 and 2TB backup drive for the mSATAs one day...
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X58 can boot from PCIe, or at least I could on both my X58 Sabertooth and my GA-X58A-OC with the Addonics Quad mSATA PCIe card. I have a pair of 500GB Samsung 850 EVOs on it, eventually I'll get another pair, I don't have any SATA drives plugged into my computer, not even an optical drive. I plan on having 4 hdds in RAID10 and 2TB backup drive for the mSATAs one day...

X58 cannot boot NVME based PCIe SSDs like the Intel 750. Your card is a sata/sas card that essentially has mSATA connectors instead of a regular SATA or SFF8087. The question was regarding the Intel 750 specifically.
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frown.gif

it was set to auto

had a lot of problems just now with ram, I had my multiplier set to 23, with vcore at 1.4 just to test, only had 8gb of ram visible, ended up dropping to 21x192 to leave me right at 4ghz lol, at 1.33 vcore for now.


fudzilla.com/32335-windows-8-rtc-bug-isolated-and-fix

guess that was my issue with h1z1, what an obscure and bs bug with windows 8/10

Yea, 1.33 is ok, Not sure how good it is to push a chip to its limit but I read the max is 1.35, Auto is not a good idea for ram speed unless its not affected by the multiplier and bclk you might have been pushing your ram speed much higher than its rated to go.

Sucks that your game has issues, I recently upgraded my laptop to windows 10 and am regretting it. My gaming pc will stick with windows 7, I would rather miss DX12 and have it work properly.
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PCIe works just fine in X58, the only problem is that you cannot boot from those devices. To the original question, the 750 works great, but you will still need a regular SATA drive to install your OS to and to boot from.

huh? i said NVMe doesn't work with x58, never said pcie doesn't work for x58. what are you on about.
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Hi all again.

Seems my memory stick died or/and CPU IMC degraded...

This night I made some tests with CPU at 4.66GHz, keeping uncore at 3300-3400 range with 1.33-1.34v max, with different bclk and memory freq. I noticed that something is bad when I tested 186x25 combo trying to determine which Vcore is required for stable 4.66 Core, I finished with 1.4375v on Vcore testing CPU in Prime95 Blend while it produced a "memory_management_error" blue screen in about 30min of test. I turned pc off and started later again, but from the "verified" 4.5GHz range. And Prime95 started to fail each time...
And not as before - when some of 1-2 working threads stopped after a significant time like several hours (if there were not enough VTT voltage/or vcore), now this happens after prime95 starts to test IMC/memory stress problem size FFT size - above 1024k, it usually happens in 20-30 mins, when 1120k / 1200k blocks starts in test pattern and all workers stopping in no time - not 1 or 2 of them. Looks like something happens with memory and data corrupts or it "losts" I loaded my "verified" prime95 29hours stable config and it also failed in the same time the same way. Linpack were stable for 1 hour showing no errors and correct results, but when I stopped it manually - BSOD with "memory management error".

I run Memtest with CPU freq default (200x17) with high vcore (1.4v) and memory at 2000 with minimum uncore at 3000 and QPI/DRAM at 1.35v:
yWxsm6Ot.png Jnyw77Lt.png

Then I dropped the bclk to default 133 and multi to 25, set all mem timings to auto, decreased voltages at minimum level and set mem to 1333 with 2000 uncore:
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much less amount of errors (x12 less), and only from 7 & 8 memtest test patterns, not 9

then I put CPU at 1.6GHz 12*133, with 800 mem and then 1066 mem (1.5v), all with minimum possible voltages and memtest haven't find any errors... even 1

I put memory up again to 1333 and 1.65v on it and run memtest again:
UxGLxZKt.png

NO errors again.

I allowed test to pass several times, turned pc off. Get in BIOS and set the 17*200 1.3v, 2000 mem 1.65v, 3000 uncore 1.3v and run memtest again, waiting to see errors again:
oF6Z3Wnt.png

nope! I feel myself an idiot. Like my PC play with me but not I play with my PC.

Had someone faced such problems? Can this be defective or dying memory stick? If I understand right and if memtest test memory in blocks according to errorous addresses it should be 3'rd stick (the latest), because it's all that above 8192Mb up to 12gb.
Can it be an IMC? glitch? or degradation? but I think in case of degradation it can't come back from dead state and handle mem and uncore again as nothing happend?

I think I should take some mem. Could somebody give an advice, what of modern mem kits are suitable and optimal for our old 1366 westmere's/gulftowns? Newer "overclocking grade" kits seems to have high mem freq like 2000+ but bad timings like 11-11-11. While we need something that are able to handle both lower freq at tighter timings and high enough freq with sweet timings like 9 (as my current kit for example, it may move from default 2000-9-10-9 to 1800-1866 8-9-8 and 1600-1666 7-8-7).
I have old mem kit (forgot about it) that were made for MAC upgrades and is ECC and rated at 1066 freq (but mem sticks marked as 1333), the mem kit is from OWC. 3 sticks 4gb each. But I don't think that mem with ECC will go even to 1600. There are Micron chips. Finding info for them tooks only to some SO-DIMM modules used in notebooks and they all are about 1600 with timings like 11 and rated for 1.35v/1.5v...

In case of CPU... to have enough room and flexibility in BCLK I looking for X5680-5690. But they become too expensive last 1-2 months. The ES (engineering sample) are much cheaper and have to be unlocked multi, right? But how good they are?
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Hello guys,

I'm fiddling with an X5650 bought on ebay about a year ago. When I first installed it, I encountered that well-known error where only 4 Gb out of 6 Gb would be accessible in Windows and in BIOS, while memtest86 would report no errors at all after an overnight run. I even bought an i7 3930k on ebay for 300 euros, now it's giving me a dilemma - what to sell given their identical performance xD The error disappeared after OC'ing the CPU so go figure what it disliked about my memory. (See below for details.)

Anyway the point is, I'm overclocking the X5650 on an eVGA X58 SLI3 E767 board, and this is the first time that I've overclocked a CPU. At first, I approached it without a plan, but later went the following route: find a QPI voltage for a given bclk first and then find the vcore for the desired core multiplier. The board seems to have a pretty basic BIOS, compared to what I see in the screenshots in this thread, in partiicular the P6T family of boards. This BIOS only has a predefined set of vcore voltages spaced at about .06125V or so. QPI can be adjusted with +0.025V offsets, the exact value is never shown in the BIOS UI. There also is a vdroop setting that adds a value in the [0, 0.05V] range to the vcore value specified in BIOS under load. Well, here are some results I've got so far, and the vcore seems a bit too high to me compared to what you guys are posting.

(to be added later as right now the PC is in a chkdsk with a 2TB drivve, can't reboot to enter BIOS)

The highest OC I'v got so far is listed below, and to be honest with you it makes me believe the CPU is either dead, or really bad, compared to the voltages posted in this thread for 4.4Ghz:

200x22 = 4.388, vcore 1.435V CPU-Z / 1.36875 BIOS (vdroop set to "red" - unsafe, QPI +0.025V (exact value with multimeter approaching 1.2V but still lower, don't have it in the copybook right now)
974 CB 15 score (estimated as too low based on the 1021 rating for 4.4 in a screenshot around here)

One step lower vcore and cinebench 15 will BSOD or crash. Why is it so high? Is thre a variable I've missed somewhere? The bclk 200 at +0.025V is stable, i've tested it at 12x in cinebench, wprime and prime95 allong with bad company 2 and bf3, it's ok, no crashes. Yet you see the results.

Thank you!

'09 x5650 SLBV3 Costa Rica B/N 31223837 (for fun and record: '10 i7 3930k SROKY Costa Rica B/N 3206C003 smile.gif )
Edited by CrazyNightOwl - 11/8/15 at 1:14pm
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huh? i said NVMe doesn't work with x58, never said pcie doesn't work for x58. what are you on about.

I meant to say that NVMe works fine on x58, you just can't boot from those devices.
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