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post #5731 of 7890
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Thanks for the information. Actually I've all my life used AMD GPUs. I was planning for a R9 295x2 in my dream rig or a Fury Nano for mini ATX micro gaming rig but I happened to find a very cheap 980ti and replaced my 7970 with it.!

Oh yeah I forgot to add that the Fury Nano is as low as $459.99 now. I'm not sure how cheap you purchased your 980 Ti, but the Fury Nano is a steal at that price.
    
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I tend to buy what I think is good for the near and short term since historically I have been on a 18-24 month GPU upgrade cycle. Right now is an interesting time since I would not count out nVidia, though in theory AMD is better positioned for DX12. Also the price of AMD is attractive. I am planning on a wait and see approach with DX12.

I currently own a big kepler that works great at 1440p. I have had it for nearly 3 years now which is easily the longest I have used a single GPU though for what it cost it better have smile.gif

Having said that I am definitely a mercenary. I had AMD GPUs previously (7950 and 6950), then nVidia before that (9800 gtx or something like that) and this has always been my pattern since discreet GPUs became a thing (3dfx was my first 3d discreet card waaaay back in the day).

The point is not to get to tied up in one side or the other. Look at the data, particularly for the games you play. Then based on your budget get the best performance for your dollar at that price point. I personally think that DX 12 is not going to be important enough for the card I would buy today, fortunately I don't have to.
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Dx12 will also bring cpu core count into play, high end gaming will require a 10+ core chip as well as a top gpu within 2 years time. I'm fine with all that but having to upgrade to windows 10 from 7 is all that upsets me
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Oh yeah I forgot to add that the Fury Nano is as low as $459.99 now. I'm not sure how cheap you purchased your 980 Ti, but the Fury Nano is a steal at that price.

The Fury Nano performs about the same as GTX 980 because it thermal throttles on the stock cooler.
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UT4 will bring Mantle DX12/Vulcan to this up and coming Alpha release with engine 4.11 It's due out in the next week or sooner
     
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I tend to buy what I think is good for the near and short term since historically I have been on a 18-24 month GPU upgrade cycle. Right now is an interesting time since I would not count out nVidia, though in theory AMD is better positioned for DX12. Also the price of AMD is attractive. I am planning on a wait and see approach with DX12.
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I currently own a big kepler that works great at 1440p. I have had it for nearly 3 years now which is easily the longest I have used a single GPU though for what it cost it better have smile.gif

Having said that I am definitely a mercenary. I had AMD GPUs previously (7950 and 6950), then nVidia before that (9800 gtx or something like that) and this has always been my pattern since discreet GPUs became a thing (3dfx was my first 3d discreet card waaaay back in the day).

The point is not to get to tied up in one side or the other. Look at the data, particularly for the games you play. Then based on your budget get the best performance for your dollar at that price point. I personally think that DX 12 is not going to be important enough for the card I would buy today, fortunately I don't have to.

My last cards lasted nearly 3 years [Nvidia GTX 670 2-way SLI]. I tend to buy and get the max out of my cards. I don't believe in buying a new card every 12 months which is why I normally don't cheap out when it comes to my GPUs. I might have to pick up a Nano since AMD allows you to Crossfire different brands [Fury X + Fury Nano CFX]. All of my decisions have been based on research and I'm no fanboy for either company. I call it how I see it. If AMD messes up....call em out.....if Nvidia screws up big time.....call em out. They pay me a dang thing.

AMD is the smartest choice since they are actually INNOVATING and they CREATED the low level APIs we will be using shortly. Just in case some didn't know DX12 and Vulcan is largely based on AMDs Mantle API. AMD is better equipped and have been sometimes. Even their older GPUs will be ready. Nvidia documentation is still trying to lead devs towards a serial way programming. Big companies are getting behind Vulcan and I hoping Vulcan will become much more popular than DX12. I feel that DX12 was enough to help justify my purchase. AMD has been stepping up their DX11 game as well. That's really an understatement since The Fury X is now faster than the 980 Ti with mere driver updates. Competition is great for everyone.


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The Fury Nano performs about the same as GTX 980 because it thermal throttles on the stock cooler.

From what I've seen for years is that if an Nvidia GPU beats an AMD GPU by 0.2fps it's becomes...."OMG Amd sux...why buy that card, plus it's hot". In this case the Fury Nano actually beats the Nvidia GTX 980 period. The Fury Nano runs cooler and has better performance. Forget 1080p since that's what most sites used as a comparison with the 980 Ti vs whatever. No one with a Fury X, Fury Nano, 980, 980 Ti or Titan is gaming at 1080p. If they are then they are reckless with their money. At 1440p+ and especially at 4K the Nano shows it's strength. The Nano is so tiny, but so powerful. The Fury X isn't a large card either.


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UT4 will bring Mantle DX12/Vulcan to this up and coming Alpha release with engine 4.11 It's due out in the next week or sooner

Keep me posted. I will be downloading and benchmarking that for sure.
    
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@Kana-Maru Will do
     
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My dual x5670 build so far.
jQtItVgm.jpg

Did some testing.. Surprisingly, this board pushes these x5670's to 24x at full load giving 3.2ghz. Did some preliminary testing with 2x2gb, getting around 1430 in Cinebench. Waiting on my 48gb kit to arrive for triple channel.
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Using setfsb I'm able to get around 137x24 for 3.26ghz, but that seems to be about the limit. If I set QPI to Slow mode I can get the bclk up to 140 giving 3.36ghz, but it's much, much slower this way so it's not worth it.
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My dual x5670 build so far.
jQtItVgm.jpg

Did some testing.. Surprisingly, this board pushes these x5670's to 24x at full load giving 3.2ghz. Did some preliminary testing with 2x2gb, getting around 1430 in Cinebench. Waiting on my 48gb kit to arrive for triple channel.
Getting around 57c with prime smallffts and the bios set to whisper mode (very quiet). The chipset gets insanely hot so I'll have to mount a fan on there.

Using setfsb I'm able to get around 137x24 for 3.26ghz, but that seems to be about the limit. If I set QPI to Slow mode I can get the bclk up to 140 giving 3.36ghz, but it's much, much slower this way so it's not worth it.

Very nice. There's no way I'm going dual proc on X58. Especially with the ridiculous prices. I'd rather just use newer tech.
Nice scores. What's the main reason for all of that power?
    
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Very nice. There's no way I'm going dual proc on X58. Especially with the ridiculous prices. I'd rather just use newer tech.
Nice scores. What's the main reason for all of that power?

I wouldn't have either, but I picked up a matched set of x5670's for $80 last year. So I decided to put them to use, the board was $100, the 48gb of 1333 was $70, Toughpower 750w Gold was $55, coolers were $40, haven't picked up a case yet. The entire build will be less than a 5820k not including some parts I already have (hdd/ssd/gpu).

I probably would have went with dual e5-2670's (~$90 now) if I didn't already have these CPU's.

I run a lot of VM's for testing apps and web stuff on different platforms, so this will help a bit to just leave them open and be able to use them as needed. Also a lot of Photoshop use with very large images, this should perform a bit better. Also wanting to get into rendering, so this will help me try that out. smile.gif
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