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Those are great prices. The prices I've seen have been horrible the past year or so. I was thinking about either going mATX or building a dual Hexa core [not X58, but X79 and up]. My Xeon X5660 is just doing everything I need it to do at the moment so I don't really want to spend the money unless I have to.

I'm guessing you can't OC the CPUs or the RAM. Well I guess you wouldn't need to with dual processors. I'm still eyeballing Broadwell-E and Skylake-E. Looks like Cannonlake might be the leap for me [who knows.]. Intel and MS are being garbage right now. If they are going to limit the OS I can use based on the CPU I might skip them altogether.
    
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Those are great prices. The prices I've seen have been horrible the past year or so. I was thinking about either going mATX or building a dual Hexa core [not X58, but X79 and up]. My Xeon X5660 is just doing everything I need it to do at the moment so I don't really want to spend the money unless I have to.

I'm guessing you can't OC the CPUs or the RAM. Well I guess you wouldn't need to with dual processors. I'm still eyeballing Broadwell-E and Skylake-E. Looks like Cannonlake might be the leap for me [who knows.]. Intel and MS are being garbage right now. If they are going to limit the OS I can use based on the CPU I might skip them altogether.

Yeah, I don't really need to OC for what I'm using it for. I would if I could, but SR2's are crazy expensive and just not worth it to me.

For gaming I still feel like these processors are just fine at 4ghz+, and will probably only get better with DX12. They may even catch up to some of the newer quad core's in games that can take full advantage of the extra cores. A x56xx at 4.2ghz gets approximately the same Cinebench score as a 6700k at 4.2ghz (depending on the memory speed, QPI clocks, etc of course).
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Yeah, I don't really need to OC for what I'm using it for. I would if I could, but SR2's are crazy expensive and just not worth it to me.

For gaming I still feel like these processors are just fine at 4ghz+, and will probably only get better with DX12. They may even catch up to some of the newer quad core's in games that can take full advantage of the extra cores. A x56xx at 4.2ghz gets approximately the same Cinebench score as a 6700k at 4.2ghz (depending on the memory speed, QPI clocks, etc of course).

I actually had a chance to get a SR-2 board at a good price back in late 2013, early 2014. Afterwards the prices [SR-2] went insane with the drop in Xeon prices throughout 2014. The main reason I didn't buy the SR-2 was because I heard about some issues while running dual processors. Some games wouldn't work properly or at all and CPU overclocking & long term stability was shaky. I also thought about how I would need to purchase another chassis for the huge SR-2 board. It would've been around $250-$300+ for the PC case I wanted at the time. I'd also need another water cooler for the extra CPU. Plus the higher end Xeon prices were still well about $300 at the time with the cheaper Xeons hovering around $150-$200. Of course the prices are much lower for many of the Xeons now.

I was also eyeballing a AMD R9 7990 to replace my GTX 670 SLI setup. Well I dodged that bullet and stuck with the 670s After looking at all of the possibilities and how much money it would cost me, in the end I decided not to do it. I had a lot going on in life at the time and bills come first before anything. Now in 2016, yes the SR-2 MBs are higher than ever. I bet some of the sellers purchased the boards at a high price [$500+] and is hoping to sell them for $800-$1,000.00+. That's going to be a tough pill to swallow if people really did scalp the boards solely for profit.

I game at 4Ghz with my Fury X and I get great frame rates and frame times. I benchmark @ 4.6Ghz & 4.8Ghz though. I haven't really looked at Intel latest CPU benchmarks. It looks like the single core gains are getting much better though if the 6700k Quad is matching the Xeon X56xx Hexa. We are talking multi- core benchmarks correct?
    
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I actually had a chance to get a SR-2 board at a good price back in late 2013, early 2014. Afterwards the prices [SR-2] went insane with the drop in Xeon prices throughout 2014. The main reason I didn't buy the SR-2 was because I heard about some issues while running dual processors. Some games wouldn't work properly or at all and CPU overclocking & long term stability was shaky. I also thought about how I would need to purchase another chassis for the huge SR-2 board. It would've been around $250-$300+ for the PC case I wanted at the time. I'd also need another water cooler for the extra CPU. Plus the higher end Xeon prices were still well about $300 at the time with the cheaper Xeons hovering around $150-$200. Of course the prices are much lower for many of the Xeons now.

I was also eyeballing a AMD R9 7990 to replace my GTX 670 SLI setup. Well I dodged that bullet and stuck with the 670s After looking at all of the possibilities and how much money it would cost me, in the end I decided not to do it. I had a lot going on in life at the time and bills come first before anything. Now in 2016, yes the SR-2 MBs are higher than ever. I bet some of the sellers purchased the boards at a high price [$500+] and is hoping to sell them for $800-$1,000.00+. That's going to be a tough pill to swallow if people really did scalp the boards solely for profit.

I game at 4Ghz with my Fury X and I get great frame rates and frame times. I benchmark @ 4.6Ghz & 4.8Ghz though. I haven't really looked at Intel latest CPU benchmarks. It looks like the single core gains are getting much better though if the 6700k Quad is matching the Xeon X56xx Hexa. We are talking multi- core benchmarks correct?

Yeah, I've also read that the SR-2 has some stability issues. I'd still give it a try if it was half the price of what it currently goes for. smile.gif

It really depends on the ram speed I guess, the 6700k can match a x56xx at the same clocks but it needs faster ram. With 2133mhz or so it is not much faster than a 4790k. And of course once the x56xx is overclocked past 4.4ghz or so the 6700k can't keep up. To match what I get at 4.5ghz (~1040cb) the 6700k would need to be at 4.8ghz or so. Of course I'm just going by the results I'm seeing online, would really need to do a side by side comparison to really compare properly.

On average it seems like the 6700k is about 35% faster per core than a x5xx at the same clocks.
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Great news!

I finally got a X58 system back up and running.All the trouble started in the middle of last year, I tried to lay my hands on a X58 mainboard, but I got scammed an it took me 5 months to get my money back, so that delayed the whole process quite a bit. Then finally in Sptember, I grabbed myself a AsRock X58 Extreme, with 12Gb of memory and a i7 920 for 130 bucks. But very soon I realized that this board is not really ideal for overclocking the 6-core Xeons. So I got myself a X58 Sabertooth for 120 bucks. But after about 2 months, the Raijintek Triton CPU block cracked and spilled water all over my dearly loved X5670 and the Sabertooth. At that time, I did not use that system at all, so I realized that something was wrong with this system a whole month after the block started spilling water. I dried the board and the CPU up, but they did not want to cooperate at all. So I bought a X5650 and a P6T6 WS Revolution with the fitting waterblocks, because I had to somehow replace the dead system. I still helt onto the dead Sabertooth and the X5670, because I still had hope. I let the board and the CPU dry again for more then a week, and what can I say, the Sabertooth board is indestructible, it still works like a charm, and the X5670 can take a beating too, because it still works as well.

The X5650 and the X5670 are not bad overclockers, I managed to boot @5140Mhz with the X5650 and I managed to hit 5170Mhz with the X5670. So all in all, everything worked out all right.

I am happy to be a part of the X58 club once again.
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I let the board and the CPU dry again for more then a week, and what can I say, the Sabertooth board is indestructible

Great story. The Sabertooth board does make it through some crazy situations. It's literally military tested and certified. Those test are rigorous. 5 year warranty is simply win.
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I finally got around to running a few test on my AMD Fury X using the latest Crimson drivers. All I can say is that AMD continues to impress me with their drivers and quick hot fixes. 16.1 has a lot of hot fixes and is in the beta stage. The increases at stock and overclocks are pretty good for a simple driver install. Here are my percentage increases.

AMD Fury X STOCK Settings
3DMark FireStrike Performance % Increase:
From Catalyst Driver 15.7.1 -[7/29/2015]- to Crimson Driver 16.1 -[1/17/2016]-
-Overall Score: +3%
-Graphics Score: +2.19%
-Combined Score: +5.89%


3DMark FireStrike Extreme % Increase:
From Catalyst Driver 15.7.1 -[7/29/2015]- to Crimson Driver 16.1 -[1/17/2016]-
-Overall Score: +2.24%
-Graphics Score: +2.20%
-Combined Score: +2.84%

Crysis 3 4K 100% Maxed - No MSAA- Performance % Increase:
From Catalyst Driver 15.7.1 -[7/29/2015]- to Crimson Driver 16.1 -[1/17/2016]-
FPS: +13.33%
Frame Rate: +4.48%

My Firestrike overclock scores have increased as well. I haven't ran any MGSV: TPP benchmarks, but I have noticed that my 1440p\1600p FPS are higher than they used to be. . I just can't say for sure without benchmarking everything.

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AMD Fury X STOCK Settings
3DMark Feature Test [DX12] Performance % Increase:
From Catalyst Driver 15.7.1 -[7/29/2015]- to Crimson Driver 16.1 -[1/17/2016]-
DirectX 12 Increase: +5.85%
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I was extremely tempted of getting a fury x, but it was the same price as my evga 980ti sc was and due to the crappy reviews it was really hard to take the risk, plus they only had the water cooled version and water for me is a no no.

Good to see they are picking up, I used to love amd, hopefully they can pull a rabbit out of the hat with zen.
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I was extremely tempted of getting a fury x, but it was the same price as my evga 980ti sc was and due to the crappy reviews it was really hard to take the risk, plus they only had the water cooled version and water for me is a no no.

Good to see they are picking up, I used to love amd, hopefully they can pull a rabbit out of the hat with zen.

"Good to see they are picking up"....picking it up?????? The Fury X has been great since day 1. I was very impressed when I reviewed my Fury X when I was able to get my hands on one after release. Most of the reviewers were clearly biased towards Nvidia. They focused heavily on the 1080p scores as well [lol 1080p with a Fury X or 980 Ti]. That's why I couldn't wait to run my own test @ 1400p\1600p\4K To my surprise the Fury X surprised much better when I benchmarked it. It wasn't really surprising since I know some sites can be biased. The drivers and fixes for newer games are only making things better. Especially when newer games release. So hopefully all of those complaints from the green side about AMD drivers will cease. 2015 and so far 2016 has been great for AMD drivers. AMD is fixing problems much quicker now.

I had my eye on a specific 980 Ti. The price was pretty high as well. I went with AMD this time around for several reasons. So far I feel that I've made a great decision. I'm still running all of my games at stock, but I'm hearing extremely minor overclocks are giving users approx. 10FPS or more increases. I'll have to get around to testing this myself whenever I get time.

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AMD Fury X STOCK Settings
3DMark Feature Test [DX12] Performance % Increase:
From Catalyst Driver 15.7.1 -[7/29/2015]- to Crimson Driver 16.1 -[1/17/2016]-
DirectX 12 Increase: +5.85%

Mantle performed better than DX12 though. Mantle was 1.57% better than DX12. Mantle had 16,374,768 Draw Calls at stock settings. DX12 Draw Calls was 16.1M.
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did anybody ever figure out or, have that problem where your sata2 write speeds with the sata 6g marvell x58 boards had 240mb writes on the intel sata2 ports, which is worse than my 775 board did on p35.
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"Good to see they are picking up"....picking it up?????? The Fury X has been great since day 1. I was very impressed when I reviewed my Fury X when I was able to get my hands on one after release. Most of the reviewers were clearly biased towards Nvidia. They focused heavily on the 1080p scores as well [lol 1080p with a Fury X or 980 Ti]. That's why I couldn't wait to run my own test @ 1400p\1600p\4K To my surprise the Fury X surprised much better when I benchmarked it. It wasn't really surprising since I know some sites can be biased. The drivers and fixes for newer games are only making things better. Especially when newer games release. So hopefully all of those complaints from the green side about AMD drivers will cease. 2015 and so far 2016 has been great for AMD drivers. AMD is fixing problems much quicker now.

I had my eye on a specific 980 Ti. The price was pretty high as well. I went with AMD this time around for several reasons. So far I feel that I've made a great decision. I'm still running all of my games at stock, but I'm hearing extremely minor overclocks are giving users approx. 10FPS or more increases. I'll have to get around to testing this myself whenever I get time.

If they were biased at all, must mean I ran into every single one of them. Every review said the same thing and lead me to choose the 980ti as the fury x was just not on par with it.

Would love to see your results though.
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