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post #5811 of 7890
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Originally Posted by arnavvr View Post

It was running a i7 930 fine. But I swapped in a E5630 which is 32nm and that won't work either. So maybe this board (X58A-OC) is only good for 45nm.

Uhh.... BIOS Version?

Did you fully reset the BIOS [Battery out, 30minutes and reset button/switch] before inserting the chips?
post #5812 of 7890
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It was running a i7 930 fine. But I swapped in a E5630 which is 32nm and that won't work either. So maybe this board (X58A-OC) is only good for 45nm.
My X58A-OC with the F5e bios works perfect with 32nm chips. Make sure to clear the cmos before installing the new cpu.
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Sorry, didn't mean to say doesn't work. It won't OC 32nm cpus very well. I tried OC'ing my E5630 from 2.53 to 2.54 and it wouldn't post
post #5814 of 7890
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I think they are both great boards, the only way to know for sure is to compare them side by side thumb.gif. See what your max Prime stable OC is at 1.3v or 1.35v on each (or a max temp of say 75c instead of going by voltage), that's how I'd decide which is better smile.gif.

x58 chips (desktop and xeon) can easily handle 100c @ 1.5v without damage 24-7-daily. Been running mine there @ 4.4 ghz for a little over 3 years now daily, no issues yet.

Granted now it's under a custom water loop and never gets above 70c, but the rest of it remains. I used to run it "hard and hot" around 100c for the first year I owned it. 2nd year H110 AIO cooler, down around 80's C, now custom water loop, average mid-60's under load, max 68c-70c now.
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x58 chips (desktop and xeon) can easily handle 100c @ 1.5v without damage 24-7-daily. Been running mine there @ 4.4 ghz for a little over 3 years now daily, no issues yet.

One sample does not mean that these chips are rated for those kind of voltages. There is a reason why higher cpu voltage leads to higher heat and why Intel's own requirements and specifications say no more than a certain voltage for example for vCore, QPI, etc... Intel wouldn't specify such ranges and limits.

I would trust Intel's own specifications and data on this subject over one sample and anecdotal evidence presented by one user. I have been around LGA1366 ever since it was first released and there are plenty of accounts of the LGA1366/X58 graveyard even dating back to the 45nm Xeon's and Bloomfield cpus.
Edited by 45nm - 2/6/16 at 6:01pm
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One sample does not mean that these chips are rated for those kind of voltages. There is a reason why higher cpu voltage leads to higher heat and why Intel's own requirements and specifications say no more than a certain voltage for example for vCore, QPI, etc... Intel wouldn't specify such ranges and limits.

I would trust Intel's own specifications and data on this subject over one sample and anecdotal evidence presented by one user. I have been around LGA1366 ever since it was first released and there are plenty of accounts of the LGA1366/X58 graveyard even dating back to the 45nm Xeon's and Bloomfield cpus.

I should of mentioned others... I've had 4 different W3520's in here, all take this voltage and heat before. I've had a 980x that ran 95c constantly under H110 for hours on end with video editing at one point (@ 4.8 ghz, 1.55v), I've had an i7-920 run 100c all the time no issue in here, I've had a i7-940 at one point, same. They all take it just don't care, even my newest i7-3770k chip I got 3 months ago, runs 90c - 92c under air cooling @ 4.7 ghz constantly full load video editing and it doesn't care.

So yes, all i7 chips can handle 100c max.

In fact Intel's newer i7 chip the 4790K that runs 4 ghz out of the box, if you use the stock intel cooler it'll just slam against 100c and throttle it's self. People have complained on the intel developer forums and Intel comes back basically "working as intended".

That's pretty much (I think anyway) why Intel charges so much for their chips: They're built like tanks and can take almost anything.

In my personal experience it's the AMD chips that die when they go past 70c. I've had a few croak on me at just 75c under air cooling and just die suddenly. But then again I've only tried overclocking the AMD quad cores.
Edited by kithylin - 2/6/16 at 6:13pm
post #5817 of 7890
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x58 chips (desktop and xeon) can easily handle 100c @ 1.5v without damage 24-7-daily. Been running mine there @ 4.4 ghz for a little over 3 years now daily, no issues yet.

Granted now it's under a custom water loop and never gets above 70c, but the rest of it remains. I used to run it "hard and hot" around 100c for the first year I owned it. 2nd year H110 AIO cooler, down around 80's C, now custom water loop, average mid-60's under load, max 68c-70c now.

I was mentioning the temperature to compare each board to see which one produces better results at similar clocks/voltages.

You can run your hardware however you like, but I'll keep my voltage under 1.35 and max temps under 80c for 24/7. I'd rather have a moderately stable machine than something that is more likely to fail prematurely. My current OC only maxes out at 68c under load.
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Weird. These chips don't need 1.5v for 4.4GHz
     
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Weird. These chips don't need 1.5v for 4.4GHz

Some of these chips don't OC well. It's called the Silicon Lottery
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Some of these chips don't OC well. It's called the Silicon Lottery

1.5v for 4.4GHz is an indicator of an abused or dying chip. 1.5v for 4.4GHz is beyond bad luck for the silicone lottery
     
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