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Originally Posted by GENXLR View Post

He's reffering to the in game graphs

See, I didn't even know there was such a thing, good place to start, yeah I'm getting roughly 73 GFlops in IBT with my current clock speed.

You think it has something to do with his RAM more than anything else? I was thinking maybe just not enough VRAM on the GTX 460, but turning down the settings and playing at a lower resolution should make up for that.

But more info on his OC, voltages in particular would be nice.
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Where are these Graphs your referring to?

Please post these graphs, yours and your buddy's so I can see what your talking about. As far as I can tell my game is running beautifully and I'm only clocked at 3.7 GHz with turbo.

In the game do the following:

- press ` (the tilde without a shift) to open the debug console
- render.perfoverlayvisible 1

The graph will be next to the minimap. It shows the *cpu and gpu frametimes* as opposed to the *cpu or gpu usage*. Green for the GPU, yellow for the CPU.

The CPU graph in the task Manager is pretty nice for me as well, but it's nice when there's stutter, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjK_1BTRxyU&feature=youtu.be <- buddy's

As you can see, it does oscilate a little bit (scroll the video into the middle, it gets a bit nicer in that part), *but* here's the big but it's consistent, the same pattern over and over. For me, there are sometimes spikes like a single tall line about the height of the graph, and general noise as in, for example,

http://i.imgur.com/9pV75NL.png
http://i.imgur.com/qQeN7CE.jpg

Ignore the spikes in the last one, they probably were from taking the screenshots. Otherwise, the graph can start oscillating like that all of a sudden around a point, or, as I've said above, can just spike ona grenade or some event. Don't even need to look at the nade exploding, just the sound or the screenshake.
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See, I didn't even know there was such a thing, good place to start, yeah I'm getting roughly 73 GFlops in IBT with my current clock speed.

You think it has something to do with his RAM more than anything else? I was thinking maybe just not enough VRAM on the GTX 460, but turning down the settings and playing at a lower resolution should make up for that.

But more info on his OC, voltages in particular would be nice.

Can't run IBT as it kills CPU's in general, and I don't have enough cooling at the moment in particular, unfortunately.

VRAM: it's about the CPU times, the graphs are separate (see the other post).

Voltage: kinda like 1.284 - 1.294 for 200x20 in Cinebench 15 multicore, and slightly above 1.3 (kinda like 1.3 - even 1.317 at times) for 186*22.

I think I had the settings in an earlier post in the thread here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/6720#post_25192982
Edited by CrazyNightOwl - 5/30/16 at 1:09pm
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Can't run IBT as it kills CPU's in general, and I don't have enough cooling at the moment in particular, unfortunately.

VRAM: it's about the CPU times, the graphs are separate (see the other post).

Voltage: kinda like 1.284 - 1.294 for 200x20 in Cinebench 15 multicore, and slightly above 1.3 (kinda like 1.3 - even 1.317 at times) for 186*22.

I think I had the settings in an earlier post in the thread here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/6720#post_25192982

IBT might me killing you CPU for a good reason, it's not 100% stable, by killing it do you mean it's causes a BSOD crash or are you just worried about your temps getting too high.
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In the game do the following:

- press ` (the tilde without a shift) to open the debug console
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The graph will be next to the minimap. It shows the *cpu and gpu frametimes* as opposed to the *cpu or gpu usage*. Green for the GPU, yellow for the CPU.

The CPU graph in the task Manager is pretty nice for me as well, but it's nice when there's stutter, too.

I'll give this a shot and post my results for you.
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IBT might me killing you CPU for a good reason, it's not 100% stable, by killing it do you mean it's causes a BSOD crash or are you just worried about your temps getting too high.

There have been threads about IBT degrading the CPU in the sense that it (a) shortens its lifetime and (b) decreases the GFLOPS without the possibility to get them back.

What resolution are you playing at?

Thank you for helping out with the testing!

GENXLR, why exactly is the RAM slow, which numbers are bad in your opinion? See, can't overclock it, 1400 is the fastest this board + CPU + RAM will do.

If I get e.g. the Crucial Ballistix (the ones with the orange stickers), that are said to reach 2133 at latencies lower than 10, will this board and CPU support a frequency of 1866 or 2000, what do you think? What about Kingston HyperX 1866 or 1600? Those are the decent kits that I cat get at a reasonable price at the moment.
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Kana_Maru what do you think of this HardOCP article tongue.gif
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

I really hope Polaris turns out to have a good bang/buck ratio.
Though I am kind of worried that about the fact that there is so little info right now available about it...
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There have been threads about IBT degrading the CPU in the sense that it (a) shortens its lifetime and (b) decreases the GFLOPS without the possibility to get them back.

Really? I've never noticed it degrades the life of my CPUs, I have an original i7 920 still going strong that i've done hundreds and hundreds of IBT passes trying to get stable overclocks in it's life span and never noticed a reduction in thr GFlops output. It's no longer overclocked today but is working perfectly fine in my media server. I also have an i7 960 which again did hundreds and hundreds of IBT passes with no loss in performance and again, is still running even with an OC of 4.2GHz in my 2nd gaming machine. So far on this Xeon x5660 I've done dozens of passes and since I've fallen back to my 3.7 GHz OC the GLfop output is more or less what it was when I first got here. Once you get a truly solid overclock you should be sound, that is all your voltages are set right, you'd be surprised what a little voltage tweaking can do for your GFlop output in IBT.
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What resolution are you playing at?

Currently running the game fully maxed out at 1920x1080, I just captured some footage and am rendering it to post to YouTube, I captured roughly 10 minutes of footage which corresponded to 42.2GB of raw video, unfortunately it was bouncing back and forth from 60 FPS and 120 FPS while capturing, but the graph was still rather smooth.

Here's a couple screen captures when not running the video capture.







The spikes only occur when I capture a frame, otherwise I don't see any spikes.
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Thank you for helping out with the testing!

Happy I can help, gave me a reason to play some BF3
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GENXLR, why exactly is the RAM slow, which numbers are bad in your opinion? See, can't overclock it, 1400 is the fastest this board + CPU + RAM will do.

If I get e.g. the Crucial Ballistix (the ones with the orange stickers), that are said to reach 2133 at latencies lower than 10, will this board and CPU support a frequency of 1866 or 2000, what do you think? What about Kingston HyperX 1866 or 1600? Those are the decent kits that I cat get at a reasonable price at the moment.

You don't necessarily need to get RAM that fast, but at least 1600 MHz, it's what I have my RAM running at and it's treating me pretty well in all the games I play, I can go up to 1866 MHz but it's doesn't seem to be required.
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I'm using corsair dominator Gt sticks that were 2000MHZ at 1600Mhz at 9-9-9-24 1T but i can do way better

You havent told us your
Uncore freq
VTT voltage
DRAM settings

Also your GTX 460 is doing you no good, I get perfect gameplay in BF4 with a Hard OC'ed 660ti and even my GTX 580(my 570 barely held on)

IBT is based on Linpack.... in case you didn't know Linpack is what Intel uses AT THE FACTORY to test cpu's soooo..... calling BS on killing CPU's, i even run it on LAPTOP cpu's and they are all ok. Just sayin...
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I'd like to know these super-secret Kana-Maru settings.
i run @ umm..4440 on a Westmere-EP.
It works for me.Unlike almost all the newer fragile bovine feces.
Anything past Ivy Bridge is prone to sudden death for no reason.
I killed a Skylake chip just this AM.Sturdy? They are NOT.
I can just imagine the time Intel is having with people that bought into this newer architecture for server use.
Chips failing left and right. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

I have heard about people killing CPUs on the newer platforms. My settings aren't really super secret at all. I'm doing the same things you guys are doing. I'm just more cautious and if I go outside of Intel recommendations I still follow their ultimate goals. I have Battlefield 3 on Origin, but I've been playing a ton of Bad Company 2 and BC2 on modded servers [weapon damage tweaks\unlocks to give low ranks a chance etc]. If you want more info about BC2 and the modded servers let me know.


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Kana_Maru what do you think of this HardOCP article tongue.gif
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility

I really hope Polaris turns out to have a good bang/buck ratio.
Though I am kind of worried that about the fact that there is so little info right now available about it...

I read that article a few days ago actually. I think it's sad if the news is true. I've also wondered about Lisa Su and Raja Koduri relationship. Sometimes they are likable and funny, other times their reactions are cringe worthy. I seriously hope the speculations about Koduri & RTG isn't true. Intel isn't going to welcome RTG in with open arms for long. They will probably use them to get the tech, write flawless documentations and goals then let them go like every big company and claim the tech. Then again if Koduri is hoping to simply be a supplier that might not last long either.

It's really sad to read this since AMD has been making some great moves recently. That's the part that really makes me doubtful. They already have Intel to worry about plus Nvidia. They obviously could use more funding, but they already have loans to pay off. AMD has been doing great and Raja has his RTG division now so happy-happy-joy-joy right? If the Intel plans are in the works then this could be a big blow to AMD and investors. I don't think that will help RTG\ATI become anymore competitive with Nvidia. AMD has already clawed back to 23% of market share. AMD maket share increased last year by 6.69% around the when the 380X dropped.

So if the article is spot on then it's pretty sad for AMD. They finally have things looking very positive for them across the board.
    
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What resolution are you playing at?

Thank you for helping out with the testing!

For your viewing pleasure, here you go: Battlefield 3 footage, I used Fraps to record the video, it's not as smooth as what ever your buddy was using and impacts my frame rate a little bit, but it gets the job done.
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