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@Kana-Maru Any latest developments on the 1080 GTX in your reviewings? Been thinking about jumping on one but am interested in unbiased reviews
     
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new result with the second CPU x5670

21x210
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xeon_x5670_4_4ghz_stabile_2.jpg


Wow! Alot better!
     
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Wow! Alot better!

Tomorrow I try 21x215
with a 1.35 Vcore
I hope that the system is stable biggrin.gif
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@Kana-Maru Any latest developments on the 1080 GTX in your reviewings? Been thinking about jumping on one but am interested in unbiased reviews

I don't have a GTX 1080 to actually review, but it's a solid card with a fair share of issues. It's far from the 100% A++ the reviewers are giving it. Unfortunately it comes with the price of a arm and a leg at the moment due to Nvidia effectively paper launching the 1080 and the 1070, price gouging, Founders Edition being the available first and limited supplies.

I would love to give an unbiased review, but the prices are just to high for me to justify the GTX 1080\FE purchase. When I purchase things I'm using my own money with ZERO help. So that's no Patreon support or anything like that. I'm thinking about picking up a much cheaper 3rd party RX 480 overclocked for benchmarking. it's cost effective and I won't suffer a greater than $700 loss lol. In the future I'm thinking about building a i7-6700K rig for gaming benchmarking purposes. We need more unbiased reviews for sure. Hopefully by then I'll find away to get funding to help for future benchmarks.

From what I have been reading about the GTX 1080 it has it's fair share or problems like many GPUs:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/172/

Off the top of my head:
Pros:
-Great DX11 performance across all resolutions.
-DX12 improvements due to the massive increase in core clock.
-4K is very playable, but not quite 60fps which the requirement for many people.
-Memory Speed is very high out of the box [10Gbps!]
-Still overclocker friendly, even for novices.
-It is the best GPU in the market at the moment as far as FPS performance goes.

Cons:
-Only supports a 256-bit Memory Interface. That's the same as the GTX 980 from 2014
-DX12 still shows negative scaling. Little or no performance increases.
-Like Maxwell, Pascal Async Drivers are still nowhere to be found. [Drivers won't help it though]
-Heat is an issue and the card throttles as low as 40c. That's very low. Hopefully 3rd parties have a solution.
-Claims 1733Mhz, but doesn't average this number during actual gaming sessions [read below]
-After playing a game for more than 10-20 minutes the GPU only averages 1667Mhz or lower thanks to throttling heat issues. Core clock is 1607Mhz by the way.
-Founder Edition = Reference Card for a premium price = Enough Said
-Only supports 2-way SLI officially

Overall a solid card, but far from a 100% GPU. There's a lot of great things and bad things surrounding the GTX 1080.


In the meantime I'm still running 4K benchmarks with my Fury X. I'm going to be uploading some gameplay videos with the FPS showing to show people my 4K experience since I'm always talking about how smooth and great my 4K experience has been in several games. I'm guessing I'll have to record off-screen.
Edited by Kana-Maru - 7/4/16 at 6:35pm
    
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21x215
Vcore 1.35
qpi\dram 1.31
ram 1700mhz
uncore frequency 3100mhz
Vdram 1.64

not stable


I get the error Kernel-Power 41

I try to increase the Vcore?

PS: the only thing is that this CPU for the same Vcore is slightly warmer than the first 5670. on what may depend on this condition?
Edited by Ferro10 - 7/4/16 at 3:54pm
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I don't have a GTX 1080 to actually review, but it's a solid card with a fair share of issues. It's far from the 100% A++ the reviewers are giving it. Unfortunately it comes with the price of a arm and a leg at the moment due to Nvidia effectively paper launching the 1080 and the 1070, price gouging, Founders Edition being the available first and limited supplies.

Not to mention that TWO 480's would still cost far below the 1080 and probably destroy it. I wonder if DX12/Vulkan and the newest drivers/games would really see a two card setup as one individual GPU? Two 480's sounds really nice so long games can actually use it like that.
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Not to mention that TWO 480's would still cost far below the 1080 and probably destroy it.

Apparently it does match it very well according to these benchmarks:
https://youtu.be/GMHJhP7Y7oM?t=1m37s

In that review the dual RX 480 CFX actually manages to beat the 1070 & 1080 at an affordable price point @ 1440p. Rise of the Tomb Raider is clearly made for Nvidia products and that shows when you look at the comparisons across all AMD GPUs. GTA5 will also favor Nvidia as well, but the RX 480 CFX came wthin 10% of the more expensive GTX 1080. Yes that's a win for the RX 480 due to the price differences. Fallout 4 also pushes the RX 480 within 10% of the GTX 1080. There were some issues that could possibly be fixed by lower some settings in a few of the titles, but overall the experience appeared to be fine for most of the games running in CFX. AMD has stated that they will be focusing more on CFX now as well.


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I wonder if DX12/Vulkan and the newest drivers/games would really see a two card setup as one individual GPU?

Well yes they will. DX12 already supports this and Vulkan will be getting a update soon. I'm not sure if Vulkan has been patched to include this yet, but if the title is programmed properly the developers can actually have the games easily scale to as many GPUs as possible. There's a pretty high limit so dual and triple GPU owners shouldn't worry once devs drop DX11. I have some mixed feelings about this, but I won't go into detail about it right now. The technology will also allow vRAM stacking. Which means if you are using two 4GBs GPUs the API will use all of the vRAM available as if it is one [8GBs will be accessible]. It will see both GPUs and spread the work accordingly. Superior hardware architecture will play a large role in this as well. AMD and Nvidia will only be able to do so much with the driver optimizations now.

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Two 480's sounds really nice so long games can actually use it like that.

So far so good. As long as AMD can keep pushing out drivers in a timely manner, which they have over the past year or so, then we will have no problems. Once DX11 is dropped more AAA games will automatically take multiple GPUs into account. Now we will see which developers decide to get with the program and who will decide to keep using outdated and obsolete technology with modern hardware.
    
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Yeah precisely my point. Two 480's get you 1080 speeds for less money, but I somehow thought it would be a killing, but its just barely. However the 1080 is an Enthusiast card so it was never meant to go up against the 400 series. Now Vega and the 1080 would be an interesting match up. I want a Vega based Fury card myself but it's STILL not available dang it.
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Seeing were digressing into GPU's again:

Has anyone tried benching with Win 10 recently? Are the gaming/benchmark scores different to W7 yet?
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Seeing were digressing into GPU's again:

Has anyone tried benching with Win 10 recently? Are the gaming/benchmark scores different to W7 yet?

Windows 10 is somewhat like Windows 8 and 8.1 when it comes to benching. 3dmark Firestrike does better in Windows 10 than 7.
    
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