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post #7371 of 8005
so many debate on 2500k and x56xx ...
i will show comparison between 4930k and x5650...
Tests done: Cinebench R15 and Firestrike physics Test.
1. 3DMark Firestrike :
x5650 @4.4


4930k @4.38


2. Cinebench R15




Both on same TT Frio OCK Cooler. fann full speed. same crappy thermal paste with same paste applying skill.
Practical day to day oc for both i think 4.2-4.3GHZ
post #7372 of 8005
I had to go to 200% on the zoom just to be able to read the blurry numbers. Is that right, 15k or abouts that for the 5650 and 16k or abouts for the 2500k? Not bad at all.

So roughly the same score really, or at least nothing to write home about. X58 shows once again how well it is keeping up thumb.gif
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I had to go to 200% on the zoom just to be able to read the blurry numbers. Is that right, 15k or abouts that for the 5650 and 16k or abouts for the 2500k? Not bad at all.

So roughly the same score really, or at least nothing to write home about. X58 shows once again how well it is keeping up thumb.gif

4930k not 2500k. smile.gif
2500k would have no chance against either cpu in a multithreaded benchmark of course.
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What about the overall score on Firestrike? 'Cos the FS physics test is pretty much the same type of test as Cinebench anyway....
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What about the overall score on Firestrike? 'Cos the FS physics test is pretty much the same type of test as Cinebench anyway....

Here is three runs with three of my x58 setups:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/9660821/fs/2615047/fs/2580230
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holy shizzle that's fast
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There's a nice deal on a Lepa Aquachanger 240 at Frys if anyone needs a better cooler. In store only.

Anyone here have any experience with the fan control on a Asrock X58 Extreme? Controlling the CPU fan doesn't seem to work very well, when the temps jump up it literally takes a minute or so for the fan to adjust to full speed.
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So what he was trying to do is process of elimination to figure out what you could change to help. Not get the best performance. Find the issue causing the need for so much voltage, and then work out the tweaks for best performance. X58 takes some real trial and error to get it right. It's actually one of the reasons why it was loved so much (and still is), the hunt for the best config intrigues only the best of overclockers!!

pull most of the memory, and things get better, your memory controller is being stressed too much. Turn off HT, and things get better, the cores/motherboard voltage regulator working too hard. But, the biggest factor is, what are all the components in your system??

Fill out the rig builder as complete as possible. so many variables can attribute stability problems. low quality PSU, will require more Vcore. High voltage, average ram can make the memory controller work harder, especially at 32 gigs. A mediocre motherboard will definitely be a huge factor in all of this. What are the complete batch numbers for the chips you have been testing?? I have seen some wildly different results due to batch numbers too.

I use DDR3-1600 three 2GB CL8 1,65 v Ram modules from Corsair Dominator and three 8GB CL9 1,5 v from Crucial. The batch numbers of the cpus (X5660) are 3042A446 and L049B150.Could it be also a too high temperature that is cause this high voltage need? To be honest if I run these cpu burners like Prime95 8k or Core Damage, it is unfortunately very high then with 4,3 GHZ 92°C. I tried undervoltig (good cpus for oc need lower voltage for the same frequency). Both of them need 0,99 volt for stock clock 2,8 GHZ to be stable otherwise they crash with Bluescreen 3B or 124 and as said +0,28 v for 4,3 GHZ (cpu-z shows 1,45-1,47v under heavy load no idea if it’s true have to measure it with a multimeter). What do you need is this a good uv result?
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If you push 1.45v at 92C you will degrade the CPUs very quickly. Looks like you will have to settle for 3.8-4GHz, maybe<1.35v fully loaded. Try to stay under 80C unless for short stress testing, and even then it's not good!

EDIT - It will make things easier on the IMC if you only use the 3x8GB cards. If you can get that running then you might be able to find the right settings to support them all afterwards.
Edited by gofasterstripes - 8/8/16 at 6:03am
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If you push 1.45v at 92C you will degrade the CPUs very quickly. Looks like you will have to settle for 3.8-4GHz, maybe<1.35v fully loaded. Try to stay under 80C unless for short stress testing, and even then it's not good!

EDIT - It will make things easier on the IMC if you only use the 3x8GB cards. If you can get that running then you might be able to find the right settings to support them all afterwards.

For 3,6 GHZ and 3,8 GHZ they need 1,18 v and 1,24 volts average (HWInfo software read no measure) to be stable (QPI 1,26 v in BIOS) otherwise they crash with Bluescreen or Freeze. The maximum Temperature is 81 °C for these settings (after 40 minutes stress test) but for me software temperature readings are not accurate. In my opinion the really important thing to see if the cpu is too hot is throttling or even emergency shutdown. There is no throttling only with the 4,3 GHZ at heavy load (HWInfo says yes) frown.gif No wonder way to high voltage.
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