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Originally Posted by Punisher64 View Post

More worried about it not working at all (I had heard some issues of 9xx series in x58) as well as my x5670 bottle-necking say a 980Ti.

I'm running an overclocked 1070 in one of my x58 rigs and it's only a few % less than a newer setups scores.
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Is it still worth upgrading to a Xeon for my rig or would it be better if I just upgraded my motherboard/cpu to newer gen?

It is, but AMD's Zen is soon to be here. I don't think they would sabotage themselves and pull something risky with their benchmark between a 6900K and their 8 core 16 thread chip. You never know though. I personally am waiting for Zen, and Vega, benchmarks.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10585/unpacking-amds-zen-benchmark-is-zen-actually-2-faster-than-broadwell
     
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So this thread convinced me that my X58 rig needed to be bumped up from a I7 950 with a very mild 500mhz OC to an X5660 rather than upgrading my x79 Xeon workstation(sidegrading?) from an E5 2670 Octcore junker to an E5 1650 unlocked hex core(admittedly, this upgrade will probably still happen at a later date).

The E5 2670 does all the productivity tasks I want it to well, but it's single thread performance is just a tad weak for some games.

I haven't had time for more than a basic functionality test and very cursory tune of the X5660, but all indications seem to be that my 950 was a much better overclocker all around(the 500mhz OC on it is without any voltage bump), but I think overall performance will be significantly better once I can get a good tune in place. It also runs significantly cooler, which is a plus.

X58 build is on an Evga X58 SLI3(micro atx), cooled by a Zalman CNPS10X Optima, paired with three random 4gb sticks of mismatched ram from the parts bin(it hasn't exploded yet!) and a Sapphire Nitro Rx470 4gb. Win10 pro.
I won't get into the other parts but there's a lot of *it came from the parts bin*

The sole and single issue I've had is that Ashes of the Singularity refuses to launch in dx12 mode for me. It runs, benchmarks, and plays just fine in dx11 though.

Anyway, just wanted to toss out a big thanks to Kana-Maru and everyone else for the great information in this thread. thumb.gif
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So this thread convinced me that my X58 rig needed to be bumped up from a I7 950 with a very mild 500mhz OC to an X5660 rather than upgrading my x79 Xeon workstation(sidegrading?) from an E5 2670 Octcore junker to an E5 1650 unlocked hex core(admittedly, this upgrade will probably still happen at a later date).

The E5 2670 does all the productivity tasks I want it to well, but it's single thread performance is just a tad weak for some games.

I haven't had time for more than a basic functionality test and very cursory tune of the X5660, but all indications seem to be that my 950 was a much better overclocker all around(the 500mhz OC on it is without any voltage bump), but I think overall performance will be significantly better once I can get a good tune in place. It also runs significantly cooler, which is a plus.

X58 build is on an Evga X58 SLI3(micro atx), cooled by a Zalman CNPS10X Optima, paired with three random 4gb sticks of mismatched ram from the parts bin(it hasn't exploded yet!) and a Sapphire Nitro Rx470 4gb. Win10 pro.
I won't get into the other parts but there's a lot of *it came from the parts bin*

The sole and single issue I've had is that Ashes of the Singularity refuses to launch in dx12 mode for me. It runs, benchmarks, and plays just fine in dx11 though.

Anyway, just wanted to toss out a big thanks to Kana-Maru and everyone else for the great information in this thread. thumb.gif

Did you have to mod the x58 micro for the Xeon to work? I had to do the solder mod on mine for it to work.
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Maybe. 3ch is not a big deal, i think. In real uses, at least. Im wrong?

You are generally correct.
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Did you have to mod the x58 micro for the Xeon to work? I had to do the solder mod on mine for it to work.
It was a drop-in replacement for me, I may have a later board revision.

I only stress-tested for a couple hours, but it seems to work fine.
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So this thread convinced me that my X58 rig needed to be bumped up from a I7 950 with a very mild 500mhz OC to an X5660 rather than upgrading my x79 Xeon workstation(sidegrading?) from an E5 2670 Octcore junker to an E5 1650 unlocked hex core(admittedly, this upgrade will probably still happen at a later date).

The E5 2670 does all the productivity tasks I want it to well, but it's single thread performance is just a tad weak for some games.

I haven't had time for more than a basic functionality test and very cursory tune of the X5660, but all indications seem to be that my 950 was a much better overclocker all around(the 500mhz OC on it is without any voltage bump), but I think overall performance will be significantly better once I can get a good tune in place. It also runs significantly cooler, which is a plus.

X58 build is on an Evga X58 SLI3(micro atx), cooled by a Zalman CNPS10X Optima, paired with three random 4gb sticks of mismatched ram from the parts bin(it hasn't exploded yet!) and a Sapphire Nitro Rx470 4gb. Win10 pro.
I won't get into the other parts but there's a lot of *it came from the parts bin*

The sole and single issue I've had is that Ashes of the Singularity refuses to launch in dx12 mode for me. It runs, benchmarks, and plays just fine in dx11 though.

Anyway, just wanted to toss out a big thanks to Kana-Maru and everyone else for the great information in this thread. thumb.gif

No problem man. I'm glad my review was able to help you. The guys in this topic have been extremely helpful over the years and it appears that will never stop thumb.gif

As far as going X79 + unlocked [Xeon] Hexa Core, honestly at this point I'm looking towards the future [Zen and Intel affordable offerings]. PCIe 4.0 is in the works and there's a lot of new tech to look forward to now. If the X79 + Unlocked Hexa Core was a side grade for me back in 2011 though 2013, it's still going to be a sidegrade to me in 2016 and so on. Therefore I think I'll be fine with the X58 until my next upgrade. I know that the X79 prices have came down as well as the CPUs, but I'm sure everyone understands were I'm going with this personally.

Hopefully Zen delivers and can give consumers competitive prices from Intel. Intel is still the brand and it's a good chance that they will still charge a premium for the "brand name" even if Zen CPUs and the new architecture competes heavily with Intel.

As far as overclocking goes I've had my X5660 overclocked since the first day I bought it nearly 3 years ago. I'm doing something a bit difference now. Basically I'm running everything at stock to see if I can really "feel" a different between 3 years at 4Ghz 24/7 and occasionally 4.6Ghz for daily usage and programming, developement etc. You can read more here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/7410
    
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There is a specific Windows 7-64-bit driver for the Sabertooth X58 that uses the Renesas controller driver. It only works when the USB 3.0 is enabled in the BIOS, otherwise you get crappy speed. So if you have Renesas hardware on your motherboard it "might" work. USB 3.0 is definitely worth the boost, especially for a single HDD+USB3.0.

Believe it or not, but the Sabertooth X58 page has been getting updates in 2015 and now 2016. There's some specific updates for Windows 10 64 bit that I just downloaded and installed. This is nice biggrin.gif.


I am also conducting a test. I've always ran my Quad and Hexa cores overclocked for many years. Now after running my Hexa-Core @ 4Ghz+DDR3-1400Mhz [stable] for nearly 3 years straight. 4.6Ghz+DDR3-1600Mhz or 4.8Ghz+DDR3- for benchmarking purposes, I've been running my gaming rig at 100% STOCK settings across the BIOS to see if I can notice a difference in everyday performance. So that means no OSD during gaming sessions or no Frame Per Second being displayed, no benchmarking etc. Just straight up programming, working, developing, surfing the web, multitasking, watching and\or listening while working to online video services such as Netflix and gaming.

So far I'm noticing little to no difference for daily work and gaming @ 1080p\1440p. 4K gaming does require 3.8Ghz+ or 4.6Ghz for the best experience. I haven't been gaming @ 4K so this hasn't been an issue. This is really making me re-think about the upgrading process and if I REALLY need to upgrade. PCIe 2.0 is still plenty at the moment for my Fury X. Newer GPU have released and more will be releasing later this year and next year, but I don't think that will be a problem for PCIe 2.0 just yet. I'm just not experiencing problems while running stock settings. DDR-1333Mhz is doing pretty well actually. Video editing has slowed down so I haven't needed to worry about needed performance for that now. I'm also enjoying the much lower northbridge temperature and I'm talking up to 8c - 10c difference on the same HOT days.

I thought maybe the PC would feel a bit sluggish when it came to loading and performing a lot of tasks at once. Compile times are still very low, loading times are quick and gaming doesn't feel any different than before. Obviously with gaming for the best experience and frame rate you'll want to overclock to at least 3.8Ghz+. I can spare a few frames that I can't see since I'm not looking at them or for them.

I just found a nec USB controller driver for my r3e. Went from 30-60mbps to 270 with my os ssd to my ssd external 3.0. Bit it still drops drastically half way through the transfer. Stupid.
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@DRKreiger Is your USB 3.0 in MSI mode?

Also do USB 3.0 add in cards run in MSI mode?
     
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Originally Posted by DRKreiger View Post

I just found a nec USB controller driver for my r3e. Went from 30-60mbps to 270 with my os ssd to my ssd external 3.0. Bit it still drops drastically half way through the transfer. Stupid.

It could be the size of the files you are trying to transfer. Sometimes smaller files can be a issue opposed to larger files. When I'm backing up from my OS SSD to my USB 3.0 HDD the SSD constantly stays around 200 MB\s and that's only because it's matching the SINGLE HDD write speed of around 100 MB\s to 150 MB\s. My OS SSD can send up to 1400MB\s. The HDD is constantly being feed data.

You could always try the PCIe USB 3.0 cards for more throughput. At the moment a PCIe USB 3.0 card wouldn't do anything for me since I'm using a single 3TB HDD for backups. I'm trying to limit myself to how much data I have. I have a tendency to hold on to junk for years.
    
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