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post #7481 of 7924
after several months away from X58 im returning to it, last system was a rampage 2 gene with an E5640 (4.2GHz 210x20) i've managed to nab a rampage 2 extreme, 24gb ram (3x8gb) and an X5650 capable of 4.4GHz (220x20) and the board has more than that in it, the chip however does not, though the person im getting off hasn't tried more voltage so here's hoping i can get some more out of it tongue.gif should be fun to play with, X58 is by far my favourite chipset where overclocking is concerned, no fun just changing multi and voltage tongue.gif
 
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Great thread Kana-Maru and everyone else!

I've done a lot of digging around and haven't been able to find a clear answer about a compatible mobo BIOS. Hoping someone here might have some info.

I'm using a Gigabyte EX58-UD3R-SLI rev 1.0 with Award BIOS version F9 . I have a x5650 on the way. Has anyone here had any luck with this config? I've seen enough to lead me to believe that it should work, but any input would be greatly appreciated!
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@phosphene It should work, I have the Gigabyte EX58-UD5 v. 1.0 bought in 2008, and with the latest bios it worked just fine with my x5660 thumb.gif.

If you can I would make a bios update just to be sure, but it should work just fine.
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@phosphene It should work, I have the Gigabyte EX58-UD5 v. 1.0 bought in 2008, and with the latest bios it worked just fine with my x5660 thumb.gif.

If you can I would make a bios update just to be sure, but it should work just fine.

Thanks for the reply. That sounds like a good idea, I'll go ahead and give it an update. It looks like the CPU support list for the UD5/UD3R is nearly identical, so fingers crossed that this x5650 fires up!

I'll post back with results in case anyone out there is thinking of grabbing a Xeon with the same mobo.
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What do you guys think, can a Westmere at 4.4 push a GTX 1060 fully? To be honest I don't fully understand what "push a GPU" means given that PCI-E 2.0 x16 and the bandwidth of the QPI link on the X58 platform are enough, but obviously there is something else to this, probably the raw computational power of the CPU in GFLOPS, especially in a single-threaded workload. I'm thinking whether I should stick to the X58 and get a 1060 with good cooling or get the R IV Gene that's on sale here along with a 4930K and maybe a 1070 for the build to be futureproof.

post #7486 of 7924
Pretty sure it's a fine match.

CPUs can limit FPS like anything else - the image cannot be displayed 'till everything is calculated, both by the GPU and the CPU.
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Does that mean that when say "CPU A can't handle GPU B", it actually means "in title X, A can't calculate the CPU part of the frame at the same rate as the GPU can calculate its part" right? I'm not really a "gamer" but have been playing different Battlefields quite well for a long time, the current ones being bc2 and bf4, and mostly care that those work at a high frame rate and the GPU isn't wasting its power with a weaker CPU. Other than that, I'd use the GPU for 3D modelling in the viewport and hopefully for GPGPU rendering, but those two tasks obviously aren't CPU-intensive.

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What do you guys think, can a Westmere at 4.4 push a GTX 1060 fully? To be honest I don't fully understand what "push a GPU" means given that PCI-E 2.0 x16 and the bandwidth of the QPI link on the X58 platform are enough, but obviously there is something else to this, probably the raw computational power of the CPU in GFLOPS, especially in a single-threaded workload. I'm thinking whether I should stick to the X58 and get a 1060 with good cooling or get the R IV Gene that's on sale here along with a 4930K and maybe a 1070 for the build to be futureproof.

X5660@4.3 with zotac 1070 amp extreme here. My unigine heaven scores were only 100 below the average from an i7 6700 with 1070. My game benchmarks are +/-5% more or less compared to reviews with the cpu above. As for the pcie 2.0 vs 3.0 discussion, many research has been done that proves as long as 8x lanes and above, the performance difference was negligible.

So even with skylake and pascal, upgrading to a non 6 core is still a sidegrade.
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Great input! How good were your game scores, if any?

 

Edit: "CPU above" == 4930K right? Wonder if a 6700K scored more than that. Nevermind, read carefully now. Still not a 6700K that people overclock to 5 GHz :)


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X5660@4.3 with zotac 1070 amp extreme here. My unigine heaven scores were only 100 below the average from an i7 6700 with 1070. My game benchmarks are +/-5% more or less compared to reviews with the cpu above. As for the pcie 2.0 vs 3.0 discussion, many research has been done that proves as long as 8x lanes and above, the performance difference was negligible.

So even with skylake and pascal, upgrading to a non 6 core is still a sidegrade.

There is no reason to upgrade from x58 for gaming if you're willing to overclock xeon processors or really want 144hz gaming. While my main rig is now socket 1150, it was mostly to just get a more powerful processor at single threaded processes and i see no difference in game (60hz@4K). Literally all of my other computers are x58 with a hexacore xeon because they are just that good for the money.
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