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In today's earnings letter, Netflix said that in principle, domestic (US) ISPs can "legally impede the video streams that members request from Netflix." It noted that nn ISP may due this to force Netflix to pay fees in order to halt a degradation to service.
However, if "this draconian scenario" were to take place, "we would vigorously protest and encourage our members to demand the open internet they are paying their ISP to deliver."
While the company is prepared to fling fire and brimstone an overstepping ISP's way, Netflix noted that in all likelihood, providers "will avoid this consumer-unfriendly path of discrimination."
"ISPs are generally aware of the broad public support for net neutrality and don't want to galvanize government action," the report read.
It goes on to say that ISPs have a stake in providing high-quality streaming video, one that they recognize and are working with firms like Netflix to provide.
"In the long-term, we think Netflix and consumers are best served by strong network neutrality across all networks, including wireless," the section concluded.


44 million subscribers (and growing)

This is refreshing to hear. Never sure why my Netflix movies run subHD sometimes (maybe 40% of the time) even though I have 25mbps by FIOS. Could be Netflix, could be my ISP?

Gives me a little more confidence to see Netflix being vocal about this and bringing awareness to this issue.
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Finally the little people getting some needed support. thumb.gif
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Since last November Comcrap has been throttling my netflix traffic from 6-10pm every day. There was a big thread on their forums with proof of this but it got locked down.

Comcast is hoping people get fed up and order their overpriced cable TV service. Because apparently putting a bandwidth cap wasn't enough of a push.

Disgusting situation.
Edited by Derp - 1/23/14 at 5:38am
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Thank god Netflix spoke up... I figured we needed someone like them to talk because I'm sure millions of people would hate to lose their Netflix service.

Leave our Internet alone!!!
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If more streaming, cloud and digital distribution companies (looking at Gabe sitting on a mountain of money) banded together with the public we could get some really great things accomplished. I'm not just talking about net neutrality I'm talking about raising standards for access too. There is no reason that people with phone, cable and power lines running to their homes should have little to no options for getting connected not to mention the dismal speeds and caps imposed simply in the name of profit.
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Since last November Comcrap has been throttling my netflix traffic from 6-10pm every day. There was a big thread on their forums with proof of this but it got locked down.

Comcast is hoping people get fed up and order their overpriced cable TV service. Because apparently putting a bandwidth cap wasn't enough of a push.

Disgusting situation.

Even worse were the allegations that Verizon was throttling Netflix traffic; thus degrading the service. Was it because they couldn't handle the load? So they said.... Or maybe it has something to do with Verizon have a 65% stake in Redbox Instant; a direct competitor to Netflix.

Basically trying to smear one service in favor of its own.
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In today's earnings letter, Netflix said that in principle, domestic (US) ISPs can "legally impede the video streams that members request from Netflix." It noted that nn ISP may due this to force Netflix to pay fees in order to halt a degradation to service.
However, if "this draconian scenario" were to take place, "we would vigorously protest and encourage our members to demand the open internet they are paying their ISP to deliver."
While the company is prepared to fling fire and brimstone an overstepping ISP's way, Netflix noted that in all likelihood, providers "will avoid this consumer-unfriendly path of discrimination."
"ISPs are generally aware of the broad public support for net neutrality and don't want to galvanize government action," the report read.
It goes on to say that ISPs have a stake in providing high-quality streaming video, one that they recognize and are working with firms like Netflix to provide.
"In the long-term, we think Netflix and consumers are best served by strong network neutrality across all networks, including wireless," the section concluded.


44 million subscribers (and growing)

This is refreshing to hear. Never sure why my Netflix movies run subHD sometimes (maybe 40% of the time) even though I have 25mbps by FIOS. Could be Netflix, could be my ISP?

Gives me a little more confidence to see Netflix being vocal about this and bringing awareness to this issue.

Sounds like ISP, because on my craptacular 25mbps UVerse connection my Netflix looks and runs amazing with no stops for buffering.
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I really can't stand companies like Comcast.
Charging you for things that should be applied, then to keep from charging you, they offer you a "protection plan" and act like it is something you should get to prCotect yourself from their service getting bad. Like having to deal with their crap service, crap quality of service, and ridiculous rates weren't bad enough, they want to charge you extra to have that luxury.

I feel so lucky to have the awesome ISP that EPB is. Top notch customer service, Google FIber speeds, no data caps, reliability, and a nice ToS.

One of my favorite billboard adds around here was "We have more bandwidth than our competition has junk mail"
And it is true....100 up/down connection for $56.99/mo (no tax), or a full gig up/down for $69.99/mo (again, no taxes)

We don't have any issues with service from Netflix, no matter the time of day, or which day it is used.

I really hope Netflix can garner some momentum with this. I wonder if they, themselves, have ever contemplated the idea of getting into the business of becoming an ISP.... They could provide their online service free of charge along with their internet plan.
Perhaps that would be a good combination for them and Google Fiber to work out.

Who knows, but I support Netflix, and really hope they make some waves with this!!
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The grammar in that quoted text gave me a headache.
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The grammar in that quoted text gave me a headache.

" It noted that nn ISP may due this to force Netflix to pay fees in order to halt a degradation to service."

this part did stick out when I read it...
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