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What ciarlatano posted sums it up nicely.


I know many guitarists, both amateur and professional. None would agree with you and very few have guitars that are worth less than $200 but maybe for backpacking and playing around a campfire.

While many needed setup, many were as 'setup' as good as is possible to do .. as is any hand built / custom guitar purchased from luthier, usually the one who made them. But they are like any fine piece, they do need adjustments and resets made over time.

I definitely agree. It's like people who claim an $800 composite oboe will perform the exact same way as a solid wood $18k oboe... They'll sound similar in a novice's hands, but the instant you get someone with even a few months of experience holding it the differences are astronomical.

... And I don't even play guitar. Probably never will, but the differences between a $200 and $2000 electric guitar from the same range and design philosophies are once again rather different in how they sound.
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I definitely agree. It's like people who claim an $800 composite oboe will perform the exact same way as a solid wood $18k oboe... They'll sound similar in a novice's hands, but the instant you get someone with even a few months of experience holding it the differences are astronomical.

... And I don't even play guitar. Probably never will, but the differences between a $200 and $2000 electric guitar from the same range and design philosophies are once again rather different in how they sound.
Indeed.
Not playing does not mean we cannot appreciate the sound quality. It's like listening to digital recordings versus vinyl; or a tube versue solid-state amp; a guitar with 3 day old strings versus a set installed a few hours ago. There is definitely a difference.
And more evident and apparent in acoustic instruments than electric ones.
My son's lady is a violinist in St. Louis Symphony Orchestra. Her bow is worth over $2000 alone.
A bit off.. well totally off, but have you ever seen what the strings look like filmed with a video camera? It's kinda mind blowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwxIg7YkaLc
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Indeed.
Not playing does not mean we cannot appreciate the sound quality. It's like listening to digital recordings versus vinyl; or a tube versue solid-state amp; a guitar with 3 day old strings versus a set installed a few hours ago. There is definitely a difference.
And more evident and apparent in acoustic instruments than electric ones.
My son's lady is a violinist in St. Louis Symphony Orchestra. Her bow is worth over $2000 alone.
A bit off.. well totally off, but have you ever seen what the strings look like filmed with a video camera? It's kinda mind blowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwxIg7YkaLc

Your son's lady just loves to throw away money. She could have had the Little Virtuoso Fun Fiddle for only $11.97 at Walmart. Same thing.

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Anyways, on the topic of coolers... @doyll, would you happen to have any recommendations for coolers going on an Intel S2600CP2J to keep dual e5-2670's nice and cool as BOINC runs almost 24/7 on all sixteen threads per processor?

Case it would be going into would be a BeQuiet SilentBase 800 without window. Yes, I do understand ssi-eeb is more along the lines of "unofficially" supported in that case but supposedly they'll fit, and the case would be on a "it'll do the job" basis until I can afford a CaseLabs SMA8.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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I know the internets needs proofs, so here's some. The guitars of Frank Zappa that were used on Legendary recordings. One of his most famous is a cheap SG copy. http://www.angelfire.com/freak2/arfz/equipment.html

Brian Mays home made cheap guitar "red Special;" played on nearly every legendary queen recordings. http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/oct/18/brian-may-queen-guitar-red-special-dad

Eddie Van Halens "Frankenstein" guitar played on Van Halen Legendary recordings. 150 bucks for the body and neck. https://frankenstrat.wordpress.com/history-of-the-frankenstrat/

Jimmi Hendrix list of "cheap" guitars http://www.groundguitar.com/jimi-hendrix-gear/
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Anyways, on the topic of coolers... @doyll, would you happen to have any recommendations for coolers going on an Intel S2600CP2J to keep dual e5-2670's nice and cool as BOINC runs almost 24/7 on all sixteen threads per processor?

Case it would be going into would be a BeQuiet SilentBase 800 without window. Yes, I do understand ssi-eeb is more along the lines of "unofficially" supported in that case but supposedly they'll fit, and the case would be on a "it'll do the job" basis until I can afford a CaseLabs SMA8.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
First thing we need to do is get rid of the cheap background noise. biggrin.gif
Case has 170mm CPU clearance.

Quick scaling of MB says about 67mm center CPU toward other CPU cooler clearance. (134mm center CPU to center CPU)
E5-2670 is 115 TDP so makes a bit of heat, but nothing outrageous.

Do you plan to overclock?

Not sure what all is available in Canada. Something similar to Hyper 212 in size should fit.
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First thing we need to do is get rid of the cheap background noise. biggrin.gif
Case has 170mm CPU clearance.

Quick scaling of MB says about 67mm center CPU toward other CPU cooler clearance. (134mm center CPU to center CPU)
E5-2670 is 115 TDP so makes a bit of heat, but nothing outrageous.

Do you plan to overclock?

Not sure what all is available in Canada. Something similar to Hyper 212 in size should fit.

He can plan to overclock, but those plans will be foiled.

Readily available quality options are from Noctua, Be!Q and Phanteks and if you ask nicely, Megahalems in dressed-to-kill Black. No TR or Cryorig. Or any Scythe coolers released in the current decade.

The Noc U12 or TC12X would suffice real nice. But, that Megahalems in black is probably the sexiest cooler ever released in Canada. They'll probably ban it soon for that very reason. biggrin.gif
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He can plan to overclock, but those plans will be foiled.

Readily available quality options are from Noctua, Be!Q and Phanteks and if you ask nicely, Megahalems in dressed-to-kill Black. No TR or Cryorig. Or any Scythe coolers released in the current decade.

The Noc U12 or TC12X would suffice real nice. But, that Megahalems in black is probably the sexiest cooler ever released in Canada. They'll probably ban it soon for that very reason. biggrin.gif

@WhiteWulfe
Could you start a thread? This Cryorig cooler thread is getting way off-track.
I have dimensional drawings for many coolers and can post them if needed.
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@WhiteWulfe
Could you start a thread? This Cryorig cooler thread is getting way off-track.
I have dimensional drawings for many coolers and can post them if needed.

This is the Cryorig thread? When did that happen? tongue.gif
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First thing we need to do is get rid of the cheap background noise. biggrin.gif
Case has 170mm CPU clearance.

Quick scaling of MB says about 67mm center CPU toward other CPU cooler clearance. (134mm center CPU to center CPU)
E5-2670 is 115 TDP so makes a bit of heat, but nothing outrageous.

Do you plan to overclock?

Not sure what all is available in Canada. Something similar to Hyper 212 in size should fit.

Sadly, my original preference isn't directly available in Canada (Cryorig), but word is that you can email them and order directly.... unless such has changed in recent times. I totally forgot to mention preference is for Cryorig, as I very much so like my R1 Ultimate in my gaming rig. In fact, I eventually plan on upgrading my benching rig to a Cryorig cooler as well (well, when the cooling pot isn't over the processor anyways) ^_^

And while it is "only" a 115W TDP processor, most setups tend to pull around 380-400 watts overall from the wall when running BOINC. I suspect this is due to more power being drawn thanks to turbo being maxed out (3.3GHz) in combination with hyperthreading and all 16 threads per processor being maxed out load wise. Oh, and the 32-64GB (I'll be getting 64GB) of ECC DDR3 probably helps a bit with that power consumption too.

Wonder if the R1 Ultimate would fit, and if it would be overkill for that kind of load.
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He can plan to overclock, but those plans will be foiled.

Readily available quality options are from Noctua, Be!Q and Phanteks and if you ask nicely, Megahalems in dressed-to-kill Black. No TR or Cryorig. Or any Scythe coolers released in the current decade.

The Noc U12 or TC12X would suffice real nice. But, that Megahalems in black is probably the sexiest cooler ever released in Canada. They'll probably ban it soon for that very reason. biggrin.gif

What, you mean running BOINC in Linux isn't considered overclocking with it's 15-20% gains in PPD (points per day) due to the much more efficient operating system? tongue.gif 2P Xeons haven't been overclockable for a while, and even trying to do bclk/fsb overclocking is going to be a bad time since I'm looking at an Intel server board. So no plans for overclocking them ^_^
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@WhiteWulfe
Could you start a thread? This Cryorig cooler thread is getting way off-track.
I have dimensional drawings for many coolers and can post them if needed.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1601281/cooler-suggestions-for-a-2p-e5-2670-xeon-setup/0_40 ^_^
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