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Originally Posted by Techbyte View Post

Who here has the Cryorig M9i specifically? I have a question about installation.

So, when you placed the M9i onto your CPU and tightened the two mounting bolts, did you tighten them as far as they would go or just snug them up?

I have an M9i in my pc. I tightened it until I felt some resistance.
post #2482 of 3719
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I built a 6700k with M9i and did not notice any bow in motherboard. I use a dob in center smaller than a grain of rice. None pushes out sides of IHS, but when removed TIM is just reaching the sides of IHS.

Do you remember if you tightened the bolts all the way down? That would mean that the mounting points that the bolts go through and into would be touching. Looking between the heatsink and mounting brackets you would see no threads. I wonder if my Msi board has a thicker "back plate". As in, the metal plate under the CPU socket.
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Originally Posted by Techbyte View Post

Do you remember if you tightened the bolts all the way down? That would mean that the mounting points that the bolts go through and into would be touching. Looking between the heatsink and mounting brackets you would see no threads. I wonder if my Msi board has a thicker "back plate". As in, the metal plate under the CPU socket.
Yes, I tightened them up tight. Which MSI board do you have? I had it on Z170 Mortar and older GA-X58A-UD5.
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Yes, I tightened them up tight. Which MSI board do you have? I had it on Z170 Mortar and older GA-X58A-UD5.

I have the Msi H110i Pro. It is an iTX motherboard so probably more prone to "bowing"
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I have the Msi H110i Pro. It is an iTX motherboard so probably more prone to "bowing"
I don't think so.
post #2486 of 3719
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Originally Posted by Damasterjj View Post

After more than 1 month I have re-pasted & remounted H7 with AS5 and Cryorig stock paste and I am still getting high temps. I will be getting Noctua D15S depending on how many fan i use i should only see 3.6C to 5.6C temperature improvement if I get anything more or god forbid 20C difference then there is definitely something wrong with H7. I think I have an idea but I don't want to speculate right now. I'll wait until D15S arrives

BTW, apparently I am not the only one having issue with H7
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My current re-paste/remount about a week old Can't do 4.5ghz anymore my temperature got worse had to back down to stock 6700K 4/4.2ghz @ 1.2Volts. which is rated at 95 TDP.. I think there is something wrong with the mounting system and Its applying uneven pressure at some corners. Also last time ive remounted, I saw a small dent at the bottom of H7 from cpu ihs. While the CPU IHS has no markings. Ive narrow it down to either mounting system is not applying the same pressure on all corners or bottom part of H7 is a softer metal and its caving in resulting into uneven pressure.

I know H7 gets good reviews and everything but Im sure none of them test the H7 past 1 day.

CPU idle temp is around 19C, so I know its not hot inside the case. I even tried open case and it makes no difference. When I start prime 95 at 4.5ghz. @ 1.35v Temperature goes from 19c to 90c in 1 second so i stop immediately. But right now temps are stable at stock 4.2

source of H7 & D15 temperature difference
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6958/cryorig-h7-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html
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like i said I gave H7 1 plus months and re pasted and reseated like 10 times. last time i re pasted temps were ok which mean seating was fine but it got worse after one week. you are right cpu should crack long before the heat sink gets a dent. unless heatsink is a softer metal. think about it why would heat sink gets dent and not the ihs? IHS literally looks brand new!

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Originally I was using AS5 but since it has 8 days cure time I couldn't tell how stable temperature. I switch CP7 temps were ok right away but I notice the temperature degrade

Maybe I'm over exaggerating the dent I saw but I'll take a picture once i receive the a new heatsink

Yes I am quoting myself so that I don't have to explain everything again.

OK maybe a dent is exaggerating a bit:) anyway as you can there is visible marking on one of the corners but none in other corners. This led me to believe that H7 have a tendency to tilt on one of the corners resulting into uneven pressure particularly in the button right. (in the picture its the upper right)

I know D15S is in a different class of cooler but temperature is definitely better and more stable the very FIRST TIME I installed it. I'm not gonna say the temperature difference because that would be advertising Noctua. If it makes you feel better even hyper 212 evo gave me better temps than H7. No more 19C to 90C after 1 second of starting prime 95 on H7




Edited by Damasterjj - 7/7/16 at 10:59pm
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Yes I am quoting myself so that I don't have to explain everything again.

OK maybe a dent is exaggerating a bit:) anyway as you can there is visible marking on one of the corners but none in other corners. This led me to believe that H7 have a tendency to tilt on one of the corners resulting into uneven pressure particularly in the button right. (in the picture its the upper right)
I know D15S is in a different class of cooler but temperature is definitely better and more stable the very FIRST TIME I installed it. I'm not gonna say the temperature difference because that would be advertising Noctua. If it makes you feel better even hyper 212 evo gave me better temps than H7. No more 19C to 90C after 1 second of starting prime 95 on H7
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The only marks I see on H7 look self-inflicted .. most likely by you .. probably by tightening one side of mount before the others.

Of course D15S will cool better, but not giving it's temps while saying 212 is bette is hypocritical. Saying 212 is better than H7 is utter nonsense and shows a lack of credibility. All reviews I've looked at show H7 being several degrees cooler than 212 .

If you believe 212 is better, I have sea side villa in the Sahara desert you need to buy. tongue.gif
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Tested both 212 evo and 212x vs H7, H7 won even tho it has fewer heatpipes.
So what you're saying isnt realistic. As far as the dent, it might be your cpu IHS not being even. Saw that tons of times.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

The only marks I see on H7 look self-inflicted .. most likely by you .. probably by tightening one side of mount before the others.

Of course D15S will cool better, but not giving it's temps while saying 212 is bette is hypocritical. Saying 212 is better than H7 is utter nonsense and shows a lack of credibility. All reviews I've looked at show H7 being several degrees cooler than 212 .

If you believe 212 is better, I have sea side villa in the Sahara desert you need to buy. tongue.gif

Like I said I have re pasted and reseated this thing like 10 times all gave me terrible. D15S & evo 212 gave more stable the FIRST time I installed it. Only H7 gave me 19C to 90C temperature increse after 1 second after starting prime 95 small fft.

you seem to ignore the idea my H7 could be defective. how long has cryorig been around in the heatsink business? Even companies like toyota, intel, nvidia, and amd whos been around in there particular field in like ages still makes mistake once in a while.
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Tested both 212 evo and 212x vs H7, H7 won even tho it has fewer heatpipes.
So what you're saying isnt realistic. As far as the dent, it might be your cpu IHS not being even. Saw that tons of times.

I've only inspected the H7 but not the IHS you could be on to something. I should have kept evo 212, H7 is only a couple of degrees apart not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Also heatsink seating could pretty much nullify the H7 advantage.
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Originally Posted by Damasterjj View Post

Like I said I have re pasted and reseated this thing like 10 times all gave me terrible. D15S & evo 212 gave more stable the FIRST time I installed it. Only H7 gave me 19C to 90C temperature increse after 1 second after starting prime 95 small fft.

you seem to ignore the idea my H7 could be defective. how long has cryorig been around in the heatsink business? Even companies like toyota, intel, nvidia, and amd whos been around in there particular field in like ages still makes mistake once in a while.
I've only inspected the H7 but not the IHS you could be on to something. I should have kept evo 212, H7 is only a couple of degrees apart not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Also heatsink seating could pretty much nullify the H7 advantage.

Your H7 clearly had an issue. It was likely as simple as a slight bend in one of the mounting arms.
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