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We really only have 3 kinds of bearings. maglev, ball and sleeve. all sleeve bearing run on a layer of oil, so they are all 'fluid hydro". A good quality sleve bearing will last longer than you will be using your fans, and a poor quality ball bearing will not last as well and a good sleeve bearing. I have some sleeve bearing fans that have been in constant use for over 6 years with not a hint of a problem yet .. 3 of them have been running horizontal all that them.

Don't pay too much attention to newegg reviews. Most of them are done by peeps with no real knowledge or experience, so they are not very accurate.

Fluid Dynamic Bearings are nice and expensive due to the royalty to Sony I think. But as mentioned the FDB bearing is just a very specific type of fluid based bearing much like sleeve bearing. But each sleeve tech just uses different methods to get the oil flowing around the shaft.

Ball bearing is actually much more stable, although some people say that it adds noise... but personally I can't really tell the difference of having a few micro sized metal balls rotating in a closed hub.

Maglev is..... ho hum on 12~14cm DC fans, still need to understand more about it. But magnets have been in fans since....forever. Not really sure how the added magnet pushing the shaft up would do for noise though. Most noise is not due to the shaft.
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Fluid Dynamic Bearings are nice and expensive due to the royalty to Sony I think. But as mentioned the FDB bearing is just a very specific type of fluid based bearing much like sleeve bearing. But each sleeve tech just uses different methods to get the oil flowing around the shaft.

Ball bearing is actually much more stable, although some people say that it adds noise... but personally I can't really tell the difference of having a few micro sized metal balls rotating in a closed hub.

Maglev is..... ho hum on 12~14cm DC fans, still need to understand more about it. But magnets have been in fans since....forever. Not really sure how the added magnet pushing the shaft up would do for noise though. Most noise is not due to the shaft.
Hi Steve! I know you stalk us here and other places, nice to see you make yourself known once in a great while. thumb.gif
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Wait.....there are any?????? tongue.gif

Just kidding. Of course you are welcome, Cryorig is Cryorig. Well, in your case, Cryorig is Asetek.....but it has Cryorig branding.....and Cryorig fans....either way, come on in.
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Of course you are. thumb.gif
And you have our empathy / sympathy too. tongue.gif

I have to admit to using an A80 on one system I have. Sadly, it is louder than any of my other systems. frown.gif

In to the club I come then thumb.gif

I have to say my A40 ultimate is quite a quiet little boy and keeps the temps on my cpu extremely cool. I believe it's slightly better than the A80, I prefer thicker rad over longer rad biggrin.gif

Just a few pics to join the crew wink.gif






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Water coolers in the air cooling forum? eek.gif What next? Dogs in the Fan Cat thread. biggrin.gifwink.gif

Welcome nice looking setup !
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Water coolers in the air cooling forum? eek.gif What next? Dogs in the Fan Cat thread. biggrin.gifwink.gif

Welcome nice looking setup !
Well, most 'water cooling' people do not consider CLCs to be real water cooling systems. They are 'wanna-be-water' cooling systems. biggrin.gif
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Water coolers in the air cooling forum? eek.gif What next? Dogs in the Fan Cat thread. biggrin.gifwink.gif

Welcome nice looking setup !

It was more that I couldn't find an AIO cryorig forum page haha.

If cryorig did a custom loop i'd hands down buy that in a heartbeat. Especially if it was white/black
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In to the club I come then thumb.gif

I have to say my A40 ultimate is quite a quiet little boy and keeps the temps on my cpu extremely cool. I believe it's slightly better than the A80, I prefer thicker rad over longer rad biggrin.gif

Just a few pics to join the crew wink.gif
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Looks good......but......you have the little fan on the pump on backwards - or the pump backwards, or the entire setup backwards, depending on how far you want to take it. The small fan is meant to keep air moving over the VRM. Right now it is doing nothing other than trying to fight the airflow of the case.
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Looks good......but......you have the little fan on the pump on backwards - or the pump backwards, or the entire setup backwards, depending on how far you want to take it. The small fan is meant to keep air moving over the VRM. Right now it is doing nothing other than trying to fight the airflow of the case.
Good catch!

The fan on CPU pump is pushing air down toward front RAM, so yes it is indeed fighting case airflow and needs to be turned to push air back toward the rear of case
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Good catch!

The fan on CPU pump is pushing air down toward front RAM, so yes it is indeed fighting case airflow and needs to be turned to push air back toward the rear of case

Easy enough to do:



But, that really doesn't help the VRM. Realistically, the whole thing should be turned around. It's the only CLC on the market that is orientation specific as far as I know.
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Easy enough to do:



But, that really doesn't help the VRM. Realistically, the whole thing should be turned around. It's the only CLC on the market that is orientation specific as far as I know.
Indeed. To get best mobo cooler pump block needs ot be mounted with lines toward back of case. First thing I noticed when I looked at A80 was this problem. If the airflow fan and pump cover had s straight tab and slot the fan could simple be turned 180 degrees and slipped back in to push air onto VRMs. But because the tab and slot are curved, the tabs only fit one way, meaning only 2 fan positions. Really seems an oversight by engineer who designed it, but it's the sort of then we see 9 out of 10 times we look. Evolv side panel mounting could easily have been made so the would fit on either side of case by simply changing the hinges on panel, but the don't. Same applies to many case side covers. Or designing cases with vent airflow area only 10-20% the airflow area of fans that use them. How about car heater radiators that mount inside of firewall, and instead of having a access panel in firewall to replace in an hour require the removal of entire dash and everything else from seat to firewall that takes 8-10 hours. mad.gif Timing belts that require 8 hours and 20 or 30 other pieces removed including draining coolant and removing waterpump to access them for replacement, when a few cover screw mount in different places would have made it a 1 hour job.
Edited by doyll - 8/7/16 at 7:10am
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