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post #2821 of 3718
Below 1000 RPM, most fan makers actually use a +/- 15% variation in fan speed. The +/- 10% is generally above 1000 RPM.
post #2822 of 3718
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

What is happening is you are freaking out over normal fan performance. The XF140 is what it is. Your XF140 rpm is within factory specifications .. Just like MicroCat and I have said.
Here are graphs with rpm range expanded so we can see both SF fan lines.

Your PWM % to RPM is near identical to the my graph you posted before.
Like MicroCat said, it is also within the 10% margin of error in specifications.

Thank you for that work!
Still confused.
Your results and mines are almost identical.
But i think the review one is a little "better".
Even considering that 10-15% margin is still 800 - 1000 at some point. 800+15% is still 920 rpm! Far from 1xxx.

But i think you are the master here, so ill trust you!

Ill try to get a "better" or quieter fan then, maybe a thermalright one.
While i try to find it ( i dont know why, but at least in my country, thermaltake distribution is really bad, and the prices and a little high) i discover a "silent" option among the fan expert features :S.
That gives me a "better" curve.

I dont know how, but this could be a temporary solution? :S

And its "secure", i mean, i know thats the range of quieter fans, but dont know if the xf140 could keep the cpu cool with that low rpm :S.

Thank you!
post #2823 of 3718
It's luck of the draw man, and also how good of a PWM controller is in your motherboard.
post #2824 of 3718
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

It's luck of the draw man, and also how good of a PWM controller is in your motherboard.

The pwn controller depends on the mobo model or the mobo "unit"?
post #2825 of 3718
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Originally Posted by Alover View Post

The pwn controller depends on the mobo model or the mobo "unit"?

The model, as in what components and how well it was programmed.
post #2826 of 3718
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alover View Post

Thank you for that work!
Still confused.
Your results and mines are almost identical.
But i think the review one is a little "better".
Even considering that 10-15% margin is still 800 - 1000 at some point. 800+15% is still 920 rpm! Far from 1xxx.

But i think you are the master here, so ill trust you!

Ill try to get a "better" or quieter fan then, maybe a thermalright one.
While i try to find it ( i dont know why, but at least in my country, thermaltake distribution is really bad, and the prices and a little high) i discover a "silent" option among the fan expert features :S.
That gives me a "better" curve.

I dont know how, but this could be a temporary solution? :S

And its "secure", i mean, i know thats the range of quieter fans, but dont know if the xf140 could keep the cpu cool with that low rpm :S.

Thank you!
What geggeg said. thumb.gif

I don't understand what you mean by "better".

As soon as I saw your new "silent" motherboard fan curve it becomes obvious your motherboard chart is not PWM% to RPM!
New setting

Old setting


The % line is not % PWM.
No idea what it is, but it's not PWM!
PWM signal % to RPM does not change more than a few RPM.
30% PWM signal cannot be 0 RPM on one motherboard setting and 895 RPM on another.

TY-147A would be a good choice. It is quieter and moves more air. But if the XF140 sounds good and is cooling good now, why change?
Edited by doyll - 9/26/16 at 11:51pm
post #2827 of 3718
When it says "0 rpm" actually means the min rpm maybe.
I mean, the min rpm measured is 554, never 0 rpm xd.

The problem with the xf140 is what started all this confusion.
With the default fan setting, controlled by the bios, the fan was spinning at 900-1000 at idle!!, so it was noisy.

Thats what made me think the fan or the mobo was probably damaged, and thats why im worried.

Installing the fan expert software it lets me drop the rpm to 750 at idle, with the "standard" profile.
Something better.

And now, with that "silent" option, is even quieter,obviously the cpu runs hotter.
Thats why im wondering if this silent option is healthy for the cpu, or the xf140 is designed to run at high rpm.

If i could stay with that silent option maybe i could save the money of a new fan.
That would be great.

Than you for all the support!.
post #2828 of 3718
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alover View Post

When it says "0 rpm" actually means the min rpm maybe.
I mean, the min rpm measured is 554, never 0 rpm xd.

The problem with the xf140 is what started all this confusion.
With the default fan setting, controlled by the bios, the fan was spinning at 900-1000 at idle!!, so it was noisy.

Thats what made me think the fan or the mobo was probably damaged, and thats why im worried.

Installing the fan expert software it lets me drop the rpm to 750 at idle, with the "standard" profile.
Something better.

And now, with that "silent" option, is even quieter,obviously the cpu runs hotter.
Thats why im wondering if this silent option is healthy for the cpu, or the xf140 is designed to run at high rpm.

If i could stay with that silent option maybe i could save the money of a new fan.
That would be great.

Than you for all the support!.
The 'problem' was the motherboard fan speed settings causing problems, not the fan. Granted the fan is not as quiet and it's sound signature is not as smooth / pleasant as some others, but it is not a 'bad' fan compared to many out there.

Don't worry about it. It's just the way your motherboard temp to rpm curves are.

What are your CPU an GPU temps at idle and full load now?
post #2829 of 3718
How is the H5 Ultimate? Can it handle a 5820K at 4 GHZ?
post #2830 of 3718
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Originally Posted by Volkswagen View Post

How is the H5 Ultimate? Can it handle a 5820K at 4 GHZ?

Its one of the best 140mm single tower coolers and should handle your 5820K with ease. What voltage is it at?
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