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post #31 of 41
Hell, I'd take this over the E6300 even without a lower price. 9x multi = nice overclocking.
post #32 of 41
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What is this NBCC you speak of? North Bridge ____ ______.
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post #33 of 41
Both C2D and C2D (ES) chips can not raise their multi by more than 1x
C2D ES's are no better than their Retail version and in some cases worse for Overclocking.
It is more rare to find an ES that OC's better than a retail C2D.
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post #34 of 41
This thing might overclock like crazy, but it WILL lack in performance somewhere... I doubt it'll ever hit 450FSB with normal cooling, so you'll take a hit on the bus speed... right? Memory bandwith won't be as high, and running anything other than 1:1 isn't hugely beneficial for memory (run memory faster than FSB), from what I've read here and elsewhere.

Personally, the chip that has me stoked is the E6420?. Good multi, better L2, and still the possibility of running monster FSBs.

I can be wrong with the stuff I said, I'm only an "intermediate" techie, and unlike many of you, don't work with PCs for a living.
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post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by V2-V3 View Post
Both C2D and C2D (ES) chips can not raise their multi by more than 1x
C2D ES's are no better than their Retail version and in some cases worse for Overclocking.
It is more rare to find an ES that OC's better than a retail C2D.
The ES chips can run 6x-Ax (A = set multiplier) as the default multiplier. This gives them HUGE advantages compared to retail chips.
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post #36 of 41
Sweet.

Got a spare C2D ECS board laying around. Might pick one up and have it SMP fold.

Can't OC past 300FSB, so it bombs for current C2D OCing. For a cheap one, it'd kill though. 2.7Ghz on a $40 board and a ~$150 chip.

BTW, its not a "Celeron of C2D" or "Celeron of Allendale."

I'd need 1MB cache to be the Celeron.

800FSB P4s : 533FSB P4's :: 266FSB C2D's : 200FSB C2D's
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post #37 of 41
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Sweet.

Got a spare C2D ECS board laying around. Might pick one up and have it SMP fold.

Can't OC past 300FSB, so it bombs for current C2D OCing. For a cheap one, it'd kill though. 2.7Ghz on a $40 board and a ~$150 chip.

BTW, its not a "Celeron of C2D" or "Celeron of Allendale."

I'd need 1MB cache to be the Celeron.

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It is the celeron of Conroe. Conroe = 4MB L2, E4300 = 2MB
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post #38 of 41
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It is the celeron of Conroe. Conroe = 4MB L2, E4300 = 2MB
the celeron of conore will be called pentium somthing and have 1MB cashe and single core .
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post #39 of 41
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The ES chips can run 6x-Ax (A = set multiplier) as the default multiplier. This gives them HUGE advantages compared to retail chips.
As an additional variable to the overclock I agree that the ES holds an advantage. However, the ES is not as mature a product as later revisions, and as such will not be as robust an overclock if given the same parameters as the Non-ES. Given the ability of the additional variable, this can lead to a greater advantage. Huge? I think not. With Pentium4 the ES was a far better prospect than the Core2 which is not FSB or Bandwidth limited at pretty much any speed. The Quads will be, given the issues of Cache dependency, however this is not in the realm of the overclock.
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post #40 of 41
Regardless if this is worse than the E6400, if i can see the prices drop soon, i'll rock one. Rock it hardcore too. I think anything sub-150$ish makes it one of the simplest C2D solutions, correct? Would also be just as fast as any other solution (for the time being. once mobo's decide to catch up ). So hell, why not?

How do these things run tempwise? Surely with such an OC you'd need some great cooling?
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