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As promised here are some pics of the heatsink open. 4x6mm + 1x8mm heatpipe setup.






The temps are as follow on BF4 for 30mins in CF setup. Ambient temp is 25c for both. Don't you love Australia tongue.gif

TRI-X - 85-86c
PCS+ - 78-79c

The noise on the PCS+ was a tiny bit more but not noticeable while playing games so the PCS+ is a win.
Edited by magicase - 3/2/14 at 11:59pm
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post #172 of 1176
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Originally Posted by magicase View Post

The temps are as follow on BF4 for 30mins in CF setup

TRI-X - 85-86c
PCS+ - 78-79c

The noise on the PCS+ was a tiny bit more but not noticeable while playing games so the PCS+ is a win.

Thanks for pix, +rep.

What clocks and fan speed?
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1100 core and default fan speeds. Same as the Tri-X to keep it fair.
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1100 core and default fan speeds. Same as the Tri-X to keep it fair.

Those temps seem really high at those clocks. I wonder if the pcs+ cooler is struggling against vertical orientation. Give this a try - put a towel on the floor and lay the ft02 on its face so you've got the cards horizontal with airflow moving front to back. Just to see if that's what's going on.

Also what speed are the fans hitting? And temps on bottom card?

If you're not going to run these cards at high clocks you can adjust vddc down from the default +50, that will improve temps.
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Those temps seem really high at those clocks. I wonder if the pcs+ cooler is struggling against vertical orientation. Give this a try - put a towel on the floor and lay the ft02 on its face so you've got the cards horizontal with airflow moving front to back. Just to see if that's what's going on.

Also what speed are the fans hitting? And temps on bottom card?

If you're not going to run these cards at high clocks you can adjust vddc down from the default +50, that will improve temps.

i had to google the ft02 and noticed that the mobo is situated differently making the card sit vertically, interesting

btw does he have two gpus?
if so put the sapphire on top and keep the powercolor on bottom, some1 mentioned they had those two in crossfire and having sapphire on top helped bring temps down like 15C difference
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i had to google the ft02 and noticed that the mobo is situated differently making the card sit vertically, interesting

btw does he have two gpus?
if so put the sapphire on top and keep the powercolor on bottom, some1 mentioned they had those two in crossfire and having sapphire on top helped bring temps down like 15C difference

The FT02 is the best cooling case you can get. The downside is Silverstone specifies that in your gpu you want heatpipes that are perpendicular to the length of the card, not along the length of the card like the pcs+. This is because there is fluid in the heatpipes that move by wicks inside the pipes, and when placed vertically, gravity works against the movement of the fluid. This is how it was explained to me in the Silverstone case forum. And when there is a reverse U shaped bend at the top of the gpu by the backplate, it becomes even harder for the fluid to move.

What Silverstone needs to do is make an FT02 with airflow going from front to back. Because it's the direct airflow path that creates the cooling effect, the 90 degree rotation of the motherboard has nothing to do with it. I guess the theory is that hot air rises, but that is in the absence of airflow. A fan will make the hot air go wherever the fan points. Another probable reason for the vertical rotation is probably that by placing the intakes on the bottom, they are further away from the user and creates less noise.

They do have a version with intakes in front, the FT04, but it is less attractive a case and comes with two higher rpm 180mm fans rather than the quieter three 180mm fans in the FT02. I might still get one but I'm not in a hurry and I'm hoping Silverstone will put out an improved version of the FT04 without that stupid door and three intakes.

But the FT02 shows clearly that case manufacturers are following a less effective design with the front bottom to top rear airflow path standard, that is not a natural movement and gpus tend to wreak havoc on the airflow because they bisect the front intakes. They should mimic the FT04. You can get a case with a solid wall of 5.25 bays and add fan mounts there, but you're limited to 120mm fans that way and you have less attractive and effective after market parts rather than a unified case design.
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The temp I posted before is for 1st gpu only. 2nd GPU is normally 8-12c lower.

I also put the fans on the FT02 on low during testing not high so it's not max cooling potential. Airflow is double if I put it on high.
Edited by magicase - 3/3/14 at 3:21pm
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I was contemplating on grabbing a ft02 at some point when I was mining with multiple cards but ended up sticking with my switch 810 which has 8 fans.
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The combined airflow of the FT02 fans below is 390cfm with 130cfm directly at the gpus with 2.45mmH2O. To achieve the same amount with 12cm fans it's going to be loud.
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post #180 of 1176
Just did another test with the PCS+. FT02 fans on low speed.

Played BF4 for 20mins in 28c ambient temp.

1st GPU was 82c while the 2nd GPU was 65c.
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