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interesting case, where did you get those awesome fans in the first picture? how do you hang them up like that?
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Bgears B-Blaster 120

Akust Adjustable Magnetic Fan Bridge Mounting Kit

Before this case, I had a Lian Li PC-A70F, and my 5770 would get to 72C furmark 100% fan. In the same circumstances with this case, and all of the fans at 100%, the card doesn't go above 50C. With all of the fans on low, and the gpu fan on auto, it doesn't go above 60C. So yeah, the extra airflow actually helps.

FT02wut? My case is the king of airflow now tongue.gif

Edit: For those who are wondering, those are Silverstone FHP141 fans ziptied to my Phanteks. Awesome fans. They can be dead silent or leafblowers.
Edited by airisom2 - 3/18/14 at 7:31pm
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Well, I might be the lucky owner of two PCS+ 290xs by next week if my paycheck is enough (95% sure I'll have enough. If not, then PCS+ 290). I also have a way of getting some great airflow to the setup, so the first card won't be starved of air. I guess I'll show you guys my current setup. Just visualize two PCS+ cards in there for now tongue.gif

And with all intakes bringing in fresh air directly to all components (no hdd cages in the way and whatnot), the temps should be excellent with two of these babies.

That should work fine, I tried that with PCS+ as upper card using something considerably weaker:


The Define R4 has a vertical pci bracket so that fan rig was blowing directly into the gap between cards. And temps were great. Those bgears obviously have a ton more airflow than the Arctic F9s I was using so results ought to be excellent. Blasting air along the edge of that card really improves vrm temps too.

Your Phanteks setup is a bit odd, I don't think I've seen that configuration before. Does that work better than the standard push/middle fan setup? But then those look like 38mm deltas or san aces? Guess you could put those outside the case and still get tons of airflow to the cooler lol.
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Intel i5 4670k Asus Maximus VII Gene Powercolor PCS+ AXR9 290 Crucial Ballistix Sport Very Low Profile 
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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Your Phanteks setup is a bit odd, I don't think I've seen that configuration before. Does that work better than the standard push/middle fan setup? But then those look like 38mm deltas or san aces? Guess you could put those outside the case and still get tons of airflow to the cooler lol.

Well, I'm not sure. I only got these fans because I broke the original phanteks fans, and I wanted to do something outside the societal norm biggrin.gif There would have been three of them rigged on there, but there wasn't enough space in the middle to fit one. I would have put a yate loon in the middle, but it would be overpowered by the FHP141 (170CFM vs 140CFM).

I actually removed both of the FHP141s, and let only the right Yate Loon run, and the temps were still great. You gotta love direct airflow. iirc, my setup cools better (edit: may have been equal. Blame my shoddy memory and lack of note taking..) than a Swiftech H220.

edit: looking at your first question again, this does cool better than the stock phanteks fans. I want to say at 100% vs 100% it's about 5C cooler give or take. There really isn't a need for a middle fan because once the first fan blows through the first tower, the second fan will suck in the air. Maybe making a shroud of sorts to bridge the gap between the towers, or reversing the back fan so that both towers get cold air, will lower temps more.

Anyways, I don't want to derail this thread too much. We shall see by around 1am if I'm able to get a pair of pcs+ 290xs. Fingers crossed smile.gif
Edited by airisom2 - 3/18/14 at 8:15pm
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Oh silverstones. I've never used 38mm fans so not too familiar with them. I use TY 143s on my D14 which is about as good as you can get in a 25mm fan IMHO. I really want to try out the ap182s though, so tempted to get an ft04. But I'm pretty sure a side fan works better for air cooled crossfire than even the fortress direct airflow.
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Intel i5 4670k Asus Maximus VII Gene Powercolor PCS+ AXR9 290 Crucial Ballistix Sport Very Low Profile 
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Crucial m500 SSD LG GGC H20L Bluray/HDDVD combo drive Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro all copper Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 420 radiator 
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Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 280 radiator Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X3 290X Windows 8.1 Qnix QX2710LED 27" 2560x1440 monitor 
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Oh yeah. I just bought 2x PCS+ 290xs. I'm broke now, but it's worth it biggrin.gif Hopefully someone will buy the BF4 things that come with them.
Edited by airisom2 - 3/18/14 at 9:54pm
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IMO the best way to undervolt is to use VBE7 BIOS editor and lower Card Voltages there. Then flash the BIOS(using bootable DOS usb flash or atiwinflash) & check the stability with stress test utilities or mining.

Working fine with my 7950 which I was able to reduce VDC from 1.2 to 1.056 V ! Temp drops from 77 to 72 under mining. This is considering card is # 1 in mATX and air intake is blocked partially.

Of Course this will depend on each card individually.
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Oh yeah. I just bought 2x PCS+ 290xs. I'm broke now, but it's worth it biggrin.gif Hopefully someone will buy the BF4 things that come with them.

Congrats man ! Pls can you let us know temps you will be getting with single & dual card closed case ?
I really like the case, but have not decided on it yet.
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IMO the best way to undervolt is to use VBE7 BIOS editor and lower Card Voltages there. Then flash the BIOS(using bootable DOS usb flash or atiwinflash) & check the stability with stress test utilities or mining.

Working fine with my 7950 which I was able to reduce VDC from 1.2 to 1.056 V ! Temp drops from 77 to 72 under mining. This is considering card is # 1 in mATX and air intake is blocked partially.

Of Course this will depend on each card individually.

I'm pretty sure vbe7 doesn't work for Hawaii bios. I think I tried it, I forget.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial m500 SSD LG GGC H20L Bluray/HDDVD combo drive Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro all copper Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 420 radiator 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 280 radiator Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X3 290X Windows 8.1 Qnix QX2710LED 27" 2560x1440 monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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Crucial m500 SSD LG GGC H20L Bluray/HDDVD combo drive Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro all copper Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 420 radiator 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 280 radiator Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X3 290X Windows 8.1 Qnix QX2710LED 27" 2560x1440 monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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Oh yeah. I just bought 2x PCS+ 290xs. I'm broke now, but it's worth it biggrin.gif Hopefully someone will buy the BF4 things that come with them.

Congrats man ! Pls can you let us know temps you will be getting with single & dual card closed case ?
I rally like the case, but have not decided on it yet.

Will do. I'll bench the crap out of these things for you guys (overclock, fan speeds,core/vrm temps, the whole shebang). I'll also compare the temps with and without the gpu fan thing I rigged up to see how much of an improvement there is.

And about the case, go ahead and get it. I was pulling my hair for the past 6 months on what case I wanted to get. My line of thought was roughly like this:
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Level 10GT
FT02
FT02 watercooled with 540mm rad
Corsair 750D
Phanteks Enthoo Primo
FT04
Haf XB
Haf XB Evo
Haf XB Evo watercooled with 1080 rad
FT04
FT05
NZXT H440
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe
Caselabs M8
Watercool my PC-A70F with monsta 360 and 240.
Cubitek Magicube AIO
Tech Station
FT04
FT02
Do nothing
Make a custom case
Haf XB Evo modified with pci fan bracket

I might of missed some cases, but you get the general idea. When you get too picky, that is what happens biggrin.gif The HAF XB stock didn't satisfy me, but add some fans on it to fully utilize the direct airflow to components, it has the potential to be the best air-cooled case on the market, especially for its small size and price.


Next up is a 4930k, but that won't be for a couple months.

I hope my 290xs don't have performance problems. As someone said in this thread somewhere, Hynix vram could be the possible issue. Due to supply shortages from Hynix, they could be pushing out lower quality or lower binned chips in order to meet the demand. Has anyone tried flashing a different bios on there (PT1 bios comes to mind) to see if that fixes the performance. Something is just telling me that the PT1 bios will fix it.
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