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post #11 of 19
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Any eta on the R9 290X lightning?


The price gouging is insane there selling R9 290's for like 600+ lol.


So let me phrase this another way.


R9 290X under Water Ref Vs None reference?



$540+120 = like $660 ~ none reference $600-630.


So which would you choose then?
post #12 of 19
Water (or even a high end aftermarket air cooler like MK-26) for sure. thumb.gif
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post #13 of 19
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Question is


Reference Under water Vs Custom Under water OC potential?
post #14 of 19
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AFAIK the Windforce uses VRM cooled by the main heatsink like Tri-X (see the VRM temps on tomshardware), it was poorly implemented for core however... plus two 8mm and four 6mm heatpipes

We shall see , jury's still out: not a single proper review for the PCS+ is out (i.e. with VRM temp, thermal imaging, removal of heatsink, etc.)

Well, I don't want to derail this thread too much, but the Gigabyte wf3x is a mixed bag. I've seen reviews of it being slightly warmer than the Tri-X (74C load iirc), and others with the temps being at 85C load. I'm guessing that heatsink dilemma that happened is the reason why.

The Tri-X has a full cover heatspreader that's attached to the heatsink, while the WF3X has a metal plate for the VRMs that is attached to the bottom of heatsink, like the MSI Gaming. The heatsink extends down in the VRM area, and the metal plate that's connected to the heatsink contacts the VRMs. As you can guess, the full cover heatspreader can absorb more heat than that small plate+fins, which is why the thermal pics I've seen of it average in the 90s on load, while the Tri-X's temps are a good bit warmer (low-mid 70s iirc).
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Question is


Reference Under water Vs Custom Under water OC potential?

Hawaii doesn't clock that great, so you're not looking at anything fantastic when it comes to overclocking Hawaii under water. Given that the non-reference air cooler can keep all of the temps in check, there won't really be a difference between it and going water. There are some 290xs that I've seen that can't get above 1150 with a really good loop, so you're just limited by the potential of the gpu. You better pray to the silicon lottery gods biggrin.gif
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post #15 of 19
I put an aftermarket Gelid ICY 2 on my reference, and the overclocks im seeing on these non-ref cooler cards arent that much better, usually hover around 1150-1200/1500. I would definitely go underwater if you already have loop, VRM temps are much better and you can probably hit 1220+ .
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by nyxagamemnon View Post

Question is


Reference Under water Vs Custom Under water OC potential?
Depends on if you're going for temperature/noise, or pure overclocking. If it's overclocking, like airisom said, you're not going to see too much of a difference. If noise and temperature factors into your purchase, watercooling keeps it extremely cool and quiet in comparison to an air cooler, that alone might be worth the extra money for the water cooling, but again depends on how much you like having a cool quiet system. It certainly won't make the card perform too much better if at all though.

I didn't mention the non reference coolers that haven't been released yet because of availability and pricing. The Tri-X is at a point now where you can find it on sites for near MSRP price but have to wait for it to come in: http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_id=%2521ORDERID%2521&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=RADEON+R9+290
To see the lightning or power cooler come in on that site at MSRP price will take at least a month, if not two to actually get the card. The Tri-X was released at the end of December, like the 26th or so, shop.blt didn't even list it on its site to order until Jan 16th or 17th, and the actual card won't arrive at my house until Feb 18th or so, almost two months after the Tri-X was released, but I'm getting it for 470$.
The lightning will have a similar situation where it will be sold out on Newegg, overclockers, amazon etc., they'll ramp up the prices, and stores selling it for cheap won't list them for half a month after the lightning comes out.

Basically if you want to wait out the storm and get the best card, it's probably going to be the Matrix, power cooler card, toxic, or lightning, the Tri-X is the best card you can get your hands on right now.
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post #17 of 19
Do we have any news on upcoming custom revisions on 290's? I was going to grab the tri-x 290, but will the fully custom cards be that much better do you think? I've only ever bought AMD Refference before, so I don't know much about them. I'm still considering a EVGA 780 card though, what do you think? replacing the 6970 n my sig rig, playing all sorts of games but only on 1080p

Cheers!
post #18 of 19
wonder if the directcu II black screens less
post #19 of 19
Go water on a ref 290 I did and got MK11 single card (290) W/R on HWBOT . Half temps too....... thumbsupsmiley.png

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7725420

http://hwbot.org/submission/2471716_homecinema_pc_3dmark11___performance_radeon_r9_290_19306_marks
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