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I thought it might be a good idea to check if my new Formula even works before I completely switch my system over.

So, I did a quick functional test + Windows install to check it out. Here´s my "motherboard testbench" ninja.gif





I also tried the AI Suite for the Formula to check out the difference to the one I use for my current Sabertooth.

Quick question about that:
What are the target temperatures/sensors for the chassis and opt fans?

On my Sabertooth I can set the target sensors and temperatures for each fan.
E.g. Chassis Fan 1 = 20% VCore Sensor, 30% CPU sensor, 50% opt. sensor.

That option is not there in the Formula software.
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Originally Posted by Someone09 View Post

I thought it might be a good idea to check if my new Formula even works before I completely switch my system over.

So, I did a quick functional test + Windows install to check it out. Here´s my "motherboard testbench" ninja.gif





I also tried the AI Suite for the Formula to check out the difference to the one I use for my current Sabertooth.

Quick question about that:
What are the target temperatures/sensors for the chassis and opt fans?

On my Sabertooth I can set the target sensors and temperatures for each fan.
E.g. Chassis Fan 1 = 20% VCore Sensor, 30% CPU sensor, 50% opt. sensor.

That option is not there in the Formula software.
The opt fans will only do advanced temp control if you have a temp sensor plugged into each header next to each of the opt fan headers, otherwise they are basically on at full speed. The chassis fan headers have voltage control like normal.

And to enable the temp control of the opt fan headers, you have to enable "advanced" fan control I believe, it's been a while
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Originally Posted by Pahani View Post

Hmm, the waste-water idea sounds cool! Hmm, what if you had clear tubing and clear fluid, but put a brownish-tinted clearcoat on the tubes you wanted to represent as the "dirty" side? I know tinted clearcoat is possible with automotive finishes, not sure how brown would look though.

Just an idea, I don't know how feasible it would be.

Well interestingly enough, my coolant is turning brown. Just rec'd a PM from Mayhems telling me that unless you use their new cleaning kit before adding their fluids, the Alphacool rads will turn the pastels brown. I had followed their posted instructions giving the rads both a high pH and low pH bath .... 9+ hours of flushing a cleaning followed by a a week with just DW and closing the week w/ a pH of 7.03


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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

The opt fans will only do advanced temp control if you have a temp sensor plugged into each header next to each of the opt fan headers, otherwise they are basically on at full speed. The chassis fan headers have voltage control like normal.

And to enable the temp control of the opt fan headers, you have to enable "advanced" fan control I believe, it's been a while


Interesting, this question was asked in Rog Forums in the formula thread and as I recall their answer was:

a) Plugging in sensors (bought separately) will display the temps in BIOS and in AISuite
b) All fans will NOT respond to sensors but in response to CPU temps.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/29/14 at 11:14am
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post #304 of 945
Hm...that´s kinda weird isn´t it?
I mean, it´s obviously possible to target different sensors with different fans.
So, why would I want my case fans (only) react to the CPU temperature?
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post #305 of 945
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Just upgraded to BIOS 1402.

So far so good.

What was your previous BIOS version before you jumped to this one? Just curious.
I'm on 1102.
post #306 of 945
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Hm...that´s kinda weird isn´t it?
I mean, it´s obviously possible to target different sensors with different fans.
So, why would I want my case fans (only) react to the CPU temperature?

I thot the same thing .... obsessed about setting up different control schemes and in the end ....

After 100+ hours of testing, it became pretty obvious that my efforts were meaningless. I have 10 fans (5 rad / 5 case) and the maximum rpm they ever hit no matter how I control them is 850 rpm. Since they are completely inaudible at speeds up to 900 rpm, from a user perspective PoV, whatz the point ? Just set 'em at 850 rpm and leave alone, no downside .... power savings would be pennies a year.

Still being a geek by nature, I enjoyed the testing and learned a lot about rad performance and fan dynamics so not like the effort wasn't worthwhile.

I have 6 temp sensors (4 water / 2 air) plus the 3 on MoBo and 2 on the GFX cards and was planning evaluating responses to water temp or even having the two rad fans react independently to CPU / GPU temps. As it turned out though, having the rads react to water temps didn't work..... under hi CPU loads and low GPU loads, water temp increased just 2C over ambient. Under high GPU loads , moderate CPU loads, CPU temps were always way way higher than GPU loads. Reacting to water temps Under Furmark, the GPUs drop from 44 to 40C .... whoopdeedoo....a whopping 4C and still 40C below any temp Id be concerned about.

I could not ever create a condition where my GPU temps ever got anywhere near the CPU temps..... so controlling based upon GPU was not protecting my CPU, controlling by water was not doing anything when CPU was highly loaded and GPU wasn't. Controlling by CPU temps never resulted in GPU temps going over 44C, kept my CPU at 74ish when it was heavily loaded and never resulted in fans being audible. So right now I am letting CP control all fans, from 450 - 850 (was 325 - 850) .... but considering going to either locking speeds at 850 rpm or having fans come on when CPU temp hits say 60C at 850 rpm and having them shut off below that.



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Originally Posted by Lesiunta View Post

What was your previous BIOS version before you jumped to this one? Just curious.
I'm on 1102.
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Likewise, I started at 0804 and upgraded cuz Asus TS wouldn't talk to me w/o latest BIOS. My OC profiles became iunstablke and require higher voltages w/ 1102. 09xx and 10xx were pulled.... 11xx, 12xx and 13xx users have reported no chnages. I was waiting for reports on 14xx from 0804 users indicating that they got their stability and voltages back..... have about 6 OC profiles so inputting all these settings takes hours.

So anyone can as yet report on their OC luck with 0804 versus 1402 ?
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/29/14 at 12:28pm
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post #307 of 945
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What was your previous BIOS version before you jumped to this one? Just curious.
I'm on 1102.

I've tried a few :

0804 > 1102 > 1203 > 0804 > 1402.
post #308 of 945
Hi guys, updated bios on this board today to ver 1402, (was using 0714) but had a few issues with a new usb mechanical keyboard disconnecting. Hoping the new bios helps with this. But my main qwery is, i saved my oc profile to a usb flash drive prior to updating the bios. Is it ok to reuse this profile on the new bios. System spec below.

17 4770k, (4.5ghz)
Asus M6 Formula
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Phanteks enthoo primo case

Thanks in advance.smile.gif
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Hi guys, updated bios on this board today to ver 1402, (was using 0714) but had a few issues with a new usb mechanical keyboard disconnecting. Hoping the new bios helps with this. But my main qwery is, i saved my oc profile to a usb flash drive prior to updating the bios. Is it ok to reuse this profile on the new bios. System spec below.

17 4770k, (4.5ghz)
Asus M6 Formula
8gb team group vulcan red 2400mhz c10
Gigabyte wf gtx 780 x3
Corsair hx 850w
Phanteks enthoo primo case

Thanks in advance.smile.gif

I don't believe it will let you. I tried to do the same and it said you could only use the profile with the bios it was made on.
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I don't believe it will let you. I tried to do the same and it said you could only use the profile with the bios it was made on.
Thanks for clarification. I entered my settings manually, (had some notes written down). All seems ok so far.
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