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Specs and fan blade shape point to more of a case fan that is more than capable of being a rad fan but probably won't keep up with GTs

I'm not writing them off as rad fans quite yet, they appear to put down very respectable static pressure numbers considering their flow rate and sound levels. Although, right now we have very weak evidence of anything... Expected there to be more reviews by this point... frown.gif
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something cool that the UK has first.. woohooo biggrin.gif

about time

It's made me realize how few UK computer hardware reviewers there are... Or at least ones that are interested in fans. We've heard almost nothing about these from reviewers, yet they've been out for some time now.
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I really hope these outperform Noctua so I don't have to buy the ugliest fans in the universe.

True story, there are NO fans as good as Noctuas yet. All my Corsair SP 120 PWM are going bad after a month.
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True story, there are NO fans as good as Noctuas yet. All my Corsair SP 120 PWM are going bad after a month.
Funny that Martin's Liquid Lab said otherwise about Noctua fans
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True story, there are NO fans as good as Noctuas yet. All my Corsair SP 120 PWM are going bad after a month.

Noctua fans are (ugly) overpriced above-average performers (bad noise levels when pushing through various levels of restriction), but they do make very good CPU coolers. I only had 2~3 x Corsair SP 120 (NON-PWM) fans delivered with a few bearing/motor issues, and the remaining fans have been on-and-off (disassembled rig for custom work) working fine for over a year. Corsair replaced them and gave me an extra for free without having to ship them back. Those all (edit: 31 of them) are working fine.

However, there are a few better fans then the SP120 (noise-level wise). Those being Gentle Typhoons and Noiseblocker NB-eLoops, which also walk all over Noctua fans in situations that requires pushing/pulling through restriction and in those situations cause less noise in comparison. wink.gif
    
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True story, there are NO fans as good as Noctuas yet. All my Corsair SP 120 PWM are going bad after a month.

Wrong, So Damn Wrong...

If you mean, and I'm not certain what you mean by that extra large superlative phrase "as good as". But if you are attempting to say "as decibel efficient" or "move a greater volume of air at decibel ratings of 4db, 6db, 8db, 10db, and 12db" since any auditory output above the sound floor higher than 12db most persons can actually hear at 30inches away from their head and ears, then you are So Damn Wrong.

The Sanyo Denki Silent S-Type fans are much more decibel efficient at any rpm than the Noctua NF-F12, and even the Noctua NF-S12 ULN series that only produces 6db, it pushes much less air at those 6decibels than the Sanyo Denki Silent S at 6decibels.

So why aren't they popular? One reason is you can only purchase them from a distributor like this one:

http://www.newark.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?catalogId=15003&langId=-1&storeId=10194&gs=true&st=9s1212

And although the base price looks only slightly greater than the Noctuas, these distributors charge a flat base rate for shipping and sales tax no matter where you live, so buying only one fan can double the cost, and they arrive unsleeved 3wires, so factor in the cost of sleeving each one. My first three were about $37each after sleeving, and my last two about $42each so roughly 5 fans cost $200. The trick is to know how many fans and the type you need and make the fewest number of orders to reduce your cost.

I do agree with you Corsair fans are substandard in comparison, but Corsair knows what they are doing, (and I respect them for it) they make much much much more money from the enthusiast market selling you just average quality fans with bright colored rings around them, than Sanyo Denki does. Sanyo sells to the enterprise and server markets and the fans are made to work in perfect silence inaudible if you like at 1000rpm, 800rpm, 600rpm, 400rpm, whatever you prefer for 10years PLUS.

I own 3 of the Corsair SPs 3AFs, and more Noctua fans than I can count. Still have my old NH-D14 since it came out October 2009. smile.gif

By the way, the Sanyo Denki Silent S fans are the same fans Seasonic and subsequently Corsair uses in their amazing world-class Platinum AX Power Supplies.



I'm using an Aquaero 6 to run my 5 Sanyos, but any good quality controller will work. Also have an inexpensive Lamptron that spins them inaudible as well.



    
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Update: Since I’m moving from an H100i and building a custom AIO with a new XSPC RX360 V3 radiator and will need one more Sanyo Denki Silent S-Type fan, AND they are on sale right now, I went ahead and ordered two more. This time Newark Element 14 offers Standard Shipping for $8.69, they did not offer that option just one year ago and the fans were only $17.02 each, so I got two on the way for only $44.77. Awesome. smile.gif

Now there is no reason not to own world-class Sanyo Denki San Ace fans for cheap, especially if you do your own sleeving, then the cost is only $22 each. Get ‘em while they’re on sale, they only have 22 left in stock, well umm only 20 now, after my purchase.

http://www.newark.com/sanyo-denki-sanace-fans/9s1212m4011/axial-fan-130ma-12v/dp/03P9424



    
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Of course, Corsair fans would be sub-standard in comparison to Sanyo Denki and Nidec Servo fans. It's just a matter of cost and availability. I would have likely picked up a couple boxes of Gentle Typhoons, if they had been in -stock anywhere when I got my 30 xSP120s. Thought it would have costed me twice as much to equip this beast with fans. biggrin.gif
    
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Of course, Corsair fans would be sub-standard in comparison to Sanyo Denki and Nidec Servo fans. It's just a matter of cost and availability. I would have likely picked up a couple boxes of Gentle Typhoons, if they had been in -stock anywhere when I got my 30 xSP120s. Thought it would have costed me twice as much to equip this beast with fans. biggrin.gif

I just got two Sanyo Denki San Ace for only $17.02 each On-Sale, that's a world-class computer fan at Corsair prices. smile.gif

$44.77 two of them delivered, that's still only $22each, and they wont give out after two years, I expect to still be using these Sanyos in 2024, and never hearing a peep from them, they are made to run 24/7/365 in servers non-stop.

I like the medium speed rating, but they also come in Low, Fast, and High.

http://www.newark.com/sanyo-denki-sanace-fans/9s1212m4011/axial-fan-130ma-12v/dp/03P9424

Only 20 left in stock at the $17.02 "stealing them" price. thumb.gif



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These need to hit US soil... shipping and price conversion from UK to US is quite a chunk of cash.
You don't want to pay the price we do?biggrin.gif
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You don't want to pay the price we do?biggrin.gif

Well to be quite honest, I don't know what kind of income Europeans get on average. So it all depends. But since the value of the Euro has been higher than USD for quite some time now, the conversion rate is almost never worth it for someone buying goods from Europe to the US. We end up paying 160% of the original MSRP going that route.

If they are the quality fans they tout to be, then I'm sure we'll have them in stock here in no time. One can only hope smile.gif
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