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Interesting.... It sounds like they are building a massive raid like array. I wonder what the cost of the BR-DVD's are. I thought the 2TB HDD's were cheaper than 20 BR-DVD + ability to read and write.... and not need to build a new system.... Interesting...
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Awesome! It also gives me another reason to laugh at the idiots who say Optical Storage is dead. biggrin.gif


I always do laugh at that....

I mean the use of optical drives and media is subjective. .....but for me its needed..
I have over 57 games that I still play on disc...

Optical drives are far from dead...but they need to be.

Dang I want these things killed off so bad. I hate optical disks with a passion. Given the choice of DVD or VCR tape...I'd take the tape since it was more likely to have less problems being read.

So this is bad news to me. With flash memory getting so cheap I am really hoping to see read only SD cards and flash drives replacing blue rays...now more money is getting dumped into a 30 year old technology and causing it to be around even longer.

Not that I expect it go away...blue ray disks are still a great option to replace tape backups. Provided the disks are are cheap enough.
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Optical media is far from dead even though my new uber sexy case that I love has no internal optical drive
 
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Cold storage....

I would hate to be the one to tell my boss if the file system/index got corrupted... They would have to read each and every disk again...
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Optical drives are far from dead...but they need to be.

Dang I want these things killed off so bad. I hate optical disks with a passion. Given the choice of DVD or VCR tape...I'd take the tape since it was more likely to have less problems being read.

So this is bad news to me. With flash memory getting so cheap I am really hoping to see read only SD cards and flash drives replacing blue rays...now more money is getting dumped into a 30 year old technology and causing it to be around even longer.

Not that I expect it go away...blue ray disks are still a great option to replace tape backups. Provided the disks are are cheap enough.

You've obviously never heard of the prototype ultra high-density discs with multiple layers that can hold a terabyte of data. You might want to catch up on your news a bit more. I don't think you know how product development works. Optical discs are a mature technology with a long history; which has significant benefits for production, the supply chain, and profitability. So it will be refined and extended as long as something with better benefits doesn't come along. Twenty years from now you may see diamond compound light-pattern storage discs that can hold data in photonic form, and look a lot like blu-rays today. With the possibilities nanotech has for consumer products, all bets are off, as far as predictions go.
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Awesome! It also gives me another reason to laugh at the idiots who say Optical Storage is dead. biggrin.gif

It's not dead, it just has to grow a little. Into the third dimension.

Holographic volumetric storage ftw.
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It's not dead, it just has to grow a little. Into the third dimension.

Holographic volumetric storage ftw.

thumb.gif Nice to see other folks have heard of the prototype tech for discs. Yep, that's an ongoing avenue of research. I'd like to have it in my rig, but I'm the bottom of the food chain for product development. Average consumers always get things last.
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LMAO! Makes it easier to hand over all your goods to the "friendly" NSA agent without them needing to remove HD's.biggrin.gif

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Optical drives are far from dead...but they need to be.

Dang I want these things killed off so bad. I hate optical disks with a passion. Given the choice of DVD or VCR tape...I'd take the tape since it was more likely to have less problems being read.

So this is bad news to me. With flash memory getting so cheap I am really hoping to see read only SD cards and flash drives replacing blue rays...now more money is getting dumped into a 30 year old technology and causing it to be around even longer.

Not that I expect it go away...blue ray disks are still a great option to replace tape backups. Provided the disks are are cheap enough.

You've obviously never heard of the prototype ultra high-density discs with multiple layers that can hold a terabyte of data. You might want to catch up on your news a bit more. I don't think you know how product development works. Optical discs are a mature technology with a long history; which has significant benefits for production, the supply chain, and profitability. So it will be refined and extended as long as something with better benefits doesn't come along. Twenty years from now you may see diamond compound light-pattern storage discs that can hold data in photonic form, and look a lot like blu-rays today. With the possibilities nanotech has for consumer products, all bets are off, as far as predictions go.

And still will skip and freeze all over the place because the disks will be scratched if fruit fly farts on them.

And what the hell are you on about with product development? Flash memory has been around just about as long as optical drive in some form or another...even longer if you consider the first battery powered ROMs that came about in like the 1960's.

If I was to bet who will win...I think I'd put my money on the optical mediums, but only because Hollywood hopes that they can sell more copies if the copies can be destroyed easier. Short of bashing a SD card with a hammer or exposing it other extreme conditions...the data is much more safe on the flash memory. I've heard that if they aren't read after long periods of time the data can degrade...but it takes a long time and that has gotten better.

In the last 20 years we've gotten SSD's out of flash memory...what have we gotten out of optical disks that compares? You really think this prototype optical storage is even going to compare with what flash memory can do today? In another 20 years flash memory will have even progressed farther as well.
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thumb.gif Nice to see other folks have heard of the prototype tech for discs. Yep, that's an ongoing avenue of research. I'd like to have it in my rig, but I'm the bottom of the food chain for product development. Average consumers always get things last.

It helps that I'm an optical engineer, and had a course from one of the professors working on the basic science involved. Course wasn't about the research, but it was brought up.

It'll be quite some time before it's to the point of consumer tech, though.
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