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who has to do that? Has this person you know that does this linked empirical evidence that it's necessary to do this? What titles are the ones which require driver swaps?

you play BF3? what driver do you use for your nvidia cards for that game? is it the same driver you use for BF4?
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you play BF3? what driver do you use for your nvidia cards for that game?

No, I haven't played a Battle Field title since the original... I do own BF$, only because it was 19.99$ during black friday, but iv'e yet to do anything with it.

I think it's an age thing. Seems everyone & their mother under the age of 21 plays BF4.

I much rather jump into some source/arma3/TF2. Different folks, Different strokes.

AMD made a huge investment when it comes to the battlefield series. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those awesome industry tricks are being played when it comes to BF. We have seen both companies do it to each other countless times.
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so what can I use to check my fps, fraps doesn't seem to like mantle api?
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I wish AMD nothing but the best. More competition = better for the consumer. AMD fans which view Nvidia/Intel as "the axis of evil" & wish they would go out of business are ignorant in many ways, one of which being business.

Nvidia fans who clown on AMD & hope that mantle fails are just as silly.

DX limitations are being hit all over the place, Mantle is exactly what we need to give MS a wake up call.

Intel will be forced to drop prices on the mid range market, assuming AMD can bring APU prices down a notch as well.

Last but not least, nvidia will be forced to address some of the long standing issues in their architecture, one of which being SLi scaling limitations.

Anyone who has been around this market for more than 2 generations should realize that AMD has as big mouth when it comes to the hype machine & advertising.
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I wish AMD nothing but the best. More competition = better for the consumer. AMD fans which view Nvidia/Intel as "the axis of evil" & wish they would go out of business are ignorant in many ways, one of which being business.

Nvidia fans who clown on AMD & hope that mantle fails are just as silly.

DX limitations are being hit all over the place, Mantle is exactly what we need to give MS a wake up call.

Intel will be forced to drop prices on the mid range market, assuming AMD can bring APU prices down a notch as well.

Last but not least, nvidia will be forced to address some of the long standing issues in their architecture, one of which being SLi scaling limitations.

Anyone who has been around this market for more than 2 generations should realize that AMD has as big mouth when it comes to the hype machine & advertising.

I agree with this ^

Hardware racism is ridiculous. Coming from both sides of the wagon, I really don't see whats the big deal with people discriminating others over their hardware preference. As long as it works intended, why go the extra mile to complain on what works right or wrong on both sides.

Apparently witnessing advancing tech year by year improves from flaws of the past. And as always, more competition.
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I wish AMD nothing but the best. More competition = better for the consumer. AMD fans which view Nvidia/Intel as "the axis of evil" & wish they would go out of business are ignorant in many ways, one of which being business.

Nvidia fans who clown on AMD & hope that mantle fails are just as silly.

DX limitations are being hit all over the place, Mantle is exactly what we need to give MS a wake up call.

Intel will be forced to drop prices on the mid range market, assuming AMD can bring APU prices down a notch as well.

Last but not least, nvidia will be forced to address some of the long standing issues in their architecture, one of which being SLi scaling limitations.

Anyone who has been around this market for more than 2 generations should realize that AMD has as big mouth when it comes to the hype machine & advertising.

Exactly. Mantle's been well for me, but today I've had a hard time getting good frames, it's all over the place. Sometimes a restart fixes it, sometimes it doesn't. But at the same time. a buggy game, on a new api, on the first release of a beta driver, it's to be expected.

That said, when it works, it WORKS and the improvement is outstanding. I look forward to what it performs like in a few months.
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That said, when it works, it WORKS and the improvement is outstanding. I look forward to what it performs like in a few months.


My feelings exactly!
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If anyone was expecting perfection from Mantle strait away..... It will take 2-3 drivers to just get it working for everyday use and more as permanent drivers. AMD has so much to the table right now. Probably its easier for the to release unfinished betas for people to find problems.
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The driver has also helped a lot in Dx11. Mantle doesn't work so great for me in battlefield. Seems a little foggy and the shadows seemed off, but, it works really well in the star swarm demo. But in battlefield DX11 works great with this driver and the new patch. My 2cents.gif:
post #1080 of 1174
I can safely say that BF4 (single player) gives me quite a bit of a boost. I went from having a custom set of settings to improve frame rates to being about to just set it at ultra and leave it at that. However, I have experienced a problem with overclocking. With the new drivers, I can no longer overclock. I used to pull 1150/1750 with 1.1v/1.6v for core and mem respectively. Now, I get massive artifacts when I go and up the clocks of either values. I am sure that I will need to either do a fresh install or wait for a new set of drivers. The good thing is, at stock, i still pull a min of 40fps with ultra settings on a PCS+ AX7950.

I really wish this will push MSFT to release a better API. To be honest, I could care less if mantle survives or not. As long as the industry (MSFT)adopts/creates an API (DX12?) that can mimic if not exceed the performance of Mantle, then we all can benefit.

From that point on, those who do not have CPU intensive workloads will not longer have to fork up so much more just to get the most out of their graphics card. Maybe spend that extra $200-$300 from buying a lower end CPU towards a steam sale? tongue.gif

All in all, this is a step in the right direction and there is no two ways about it. Just because it is not available to nVidia users does not make it any less of a statement. People can bash it all they want, but the goal is not to put GCN cards on a pedestal but to open the eyes of the public. Mantle is a revolution in the world of gaming and will benefit both camps in the long run.

The sheer fact that people are saying, "[oh there aren't any games that support it, so it is a failure!]" shows how many of us fail to see the bigger picture. Would you not want more performance for free? If your answer is no, then you have no financial constraints or your purchasing decisions are determined by something other than gaming.

The bottom line is that with Mantle, MSFT is going feel more pressure to improve on DX. If things go according to plan, EVERYONE benefit. So for now, stop the bashing, stop the green vs red war. The fight is between hardware companies vs the software giant.

--rant over.
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