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Well, just played a game and fps is equal to single card performance for 7970. Crossfire i guess is not compatible yet.
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Well....

I am hugely disappointed...

We knew it was going to help the lower end processor people, but it didn't do crap for those of us with higher end rigs. I won't feel the slightest bit bad about dumping these 7970s for 780 Tis and that Asus ROG SWIFT monitor.

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Altar and Knucklehead were right this whole time......
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Test case 3: High-end single-player with multiple GPUs
CPU: Intel Core i7-3970x Extreme, 12 logical cores @ 3.5 GHz
GPU: 2x AMD Radeon R9 290x 4 GB
Settings: 1080p ULTRA 4x MSAA
OS: Windows 8 64-bit
Level: South China Sea “Broken Flight Deck”
This single-player scene is heavy on both the CPU and GPU with lots of action going on. Test was done on the highest end Intel CPU on Windows 8, which is the fastest option before Mantle thanks to DirectX 11.1. Still this CPU is not fast enough to keep the 2 290x GPUs fed at 1080p on Ultra settings so we get a significant CPU performance bottleneck which results in major performance improvement when enabling Mantle.
Result: 13.24 ms/f -> = 8.38 ms/f = 58% faster

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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Well....

I am hugely disappointed...

We knew it was going to help the lower end processor people, but it didn't do crap for those of us with higher end rigs. I won't feel the slightest bit bad about dumping these 7970s for 780 Tis and that Asus ROG SWIFT monitor.

I welcome the return of my, once again, overlord Nvidia!

Altar and Knucklehead were right this whole time......
The thing about this....is...

Why buy AMD and have Intel like performance in only Mantle games, when I can buy Intel and have Intel like performance in ALL the games I play? Glad AMD removed the LOW END bottleneck on LOW END CPUs, but this is disappointing for those of us with higher end hardware.

Mantle is great for the budget gamer it seems, someone that wants to go low end due to cost, and get pretty solid performance on Mantle games.

omg, can people at least download and test stuff out before making such short sighted statements?
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At least now mid end computer can run decently on new games that support Mantle.

 
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Well....

I am hugely disappointed...

We knew it was going to help the lower end processor people, but it didn't do crap for those of us with higher end rigs. I won't feel the slightest bit bad about dumping these 7970s for 780 Tis and that Asus ROG SWIFT monitor.

I welcome the return of my, once again, overlord Nvidia!

Altar and Knucklehead were right this whole time......
The thing about this....is...

Why buy AMD and have Intel like performance in only Mantle games, when I can buy Intel and have Intel like performance in ALL the games I play? Glad AMD removed the LOW END bottleneck on LOW END CPUs, but this is disappointing for those of us with higher end hardware.

Mantle is great for the budget gamer it seems, someone that wants to go low end due to cost, and get pretty solid performance on Mantle games.

Uhhmm your cpu is a part of the lower end category.

Bottleneck is removed everywhere.

Intel 4770k cannot handle 2 R9 290x. Mantle brings over 50% improvements there.

And you are a budget gamer based on your specs.
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Well....

I am hugely disappointed...

We knew it was going to help the lower end processor people, but it didn't do crap for those of us with higher end rigs. I won't feel the slightest bit bad about dumping these 7970s for 780 Tis and that Asus ROG SWIFT monitor.

I welcome the return of my, once again, overlord Nvidia!

Altar and Knucklehead were right this whole time......

Sorry, but I have to mention that
a) any current GPU is much faster that any current CPU...
b) The stronger GPU, the more it was dragged down by CPU and DX.
c) Even If you have strong CPU, you still can take benefit of the Mantle. Definitely not with R7-260, but surely with R9-280, also with R9-290x. Now start thinking about crossfire, and possibilites of future graphic cards with your current CPU.
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Well....

I am hugely disappointed...

We knew it was going to help the lower end processor people, but it didn't do crap for those of us with higher end rigs. I won't feel the slightest bit bad about dumping these 7970s for 780 Tis and that Asus ROG SWIFT monitor.

I welcome the return of my, once again, overlord Nvidia!

Altar and Knucklehead were right this whole time......
The thing about this....is...

Why buy AMD and have Intel like performance in only Mantle games, when I can buy Intel and have Intel like performance in ALL the games I play? Glad AMD removed the LOW END bottleneck on LOW END CPUs, but this is disappointing for those of us with higher end hardware.

Mantle is great for the budget gamer it seems, someone that wants to go low end due to cost, and get pretty solid performance on Mantle games.

Just being completely honest here, but, when I seen the "Up to 45%" I knew that was the absolute highest possible, so I shot low, and said the low end would be around 15%. Not in my wildest dreams did I expect to see numbers as low as 2%!


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Well, just played a game and fps is equal to single card performance for 7970. Crossfire i guess is not compatible yet.
Driver isn't out yet? thinking.gif
Therefore mantle ain't even enabled in the first place.
    
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That would be great, if every game or a large portion supported mantle. It would make sense then.

Doesn't need too. As long as its the games the buyer plays. For instance if someone was wanting to build a BF4 rig, this is an excellent route. People invest too much into their CPU then pair it with a relatively weak GPU. For gaming that is just dumb. Without HSA/Huma/Mantle the kaveri CPU is great, everything else from this point on is just gravy IMO. I Play all the same games at maxed settings 1080P that a person does with an i7, sounds like a win too me.
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Just being completely honest here, but, when I seen the "Up to 45%" I knew that was the absolute highest possible, so I shot low, and said the low end would be around 15%. Not in my wildest dreams did I expect to see numbers as low as 2%!

Are you talking about the part where they paired a I7 49xxK with a R7 260X? OFC you wouldn't see a perf. increase there, since there is minimal bottlenecking. Get over yourself.
    
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