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Great AMD just extend 2011 socket CPU another 5yrs lol

I guess u wont get bottleneck if u put a 4930K CPU with a pair of future super GPU Radeon R9-490X/590X. biggrin.gif

Yes, if at least your GPU will move to red camp, and the API gets widely adopted by game devs... or Nvidia will be able to adopt Mantle in the next GPU generation...

Edit>

to Alatar:
I expect lower percentual increase as the CPU (and maybe memory overclock) is intended to remove/decrease effect of CPU overhead. The other scenario is that percentual increases will remain the same as total performance will increase.

Then considering this approach, you can archeive better results and GPU utilization with less watts for CPU... Just remember that AMD made some tests on underclocked FX 8350. More threads, lower frequency... At all seems promising.
Edited by Offler - 1/30/14 at 12:59am
post #52 of 1174
no

mantle is not going to be vendor specific ... it will work with nvidia cards as well and entire 7xxx series aka GCN will be supported as well.
post #53 of 1174
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no

mantle is not going to be vendor specific ... it will work with nvidia cards as well and entire 7xxx series aka GCN will be supported as well.

There's no indication that it will ever work with NVidia, just that it isn't limited to only AMD. Big difference, could is not will.
Edited by Forceman - 1/30/14 at 1:16am
post #54 of 1174
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I think Mantle is only for Hawaii cards, the frame pacing fix is for non-Hawaii cards (since it was already fixed for Hawaii).

its for all gcn just older cards might not have it at launch amd has said this already.
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As expected pretty much the only benefits to fps come from removing some CPU overhead.

These are also with stock CPUs, the numbers will just go down even more once you've overclocked your stuff...

But, waiting for 3rd party numbers. Maybe we'll see tests with OC'd stuff then.
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its for all gcn just older cards might not have it at launch amd has said this already.

I know, I meant this driver that's coming tomorrow.
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As expected pretty much the only benefits to fps come from removing some CPU overhead.

These are also with stock CPUs, the numbers will just go down even more once you've overclocked your stuff...

But, waiting for 3rd party numbers. Maybe we'll see tests with OC'd stuff then.

Thanks for pointing that out. I'm looking forward to seeing the 'real' numbers that OCN members want to see.
post #58 of 1174
What but AMD's rep stated over 4% gain in gpu limited scenarios...
How can there be no improvement on the gpu side with to metal coding...

Either BF4 is a poor implementation or they well kinda messed up.
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What but AMD's rep stated over 4% gain in gpu limited scenarios...
How can there be no improvement on the gpu side with to metal coding...

Either BF4 is a poor implementation or they well kinda messed up.
its 10% for 4960X + 290X, well... thats over 4%? isnt it?

I already told many times here, dont expect 45% gain. 20% is the most u could get. Mantle is quite fresh and beta now, yet it already given free 10%. So 20% isnt too far from being unrealistic.

the biggest impact is the min frame rate, I am more interested in this area.
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Majority of the desktop user must have their CPU OCed then....

Of course they don't but people on OCN do. I'm just mostly interested in the stuff that applies to enthusiasts. People here are running overclocked intel 6-cores, overclocked haswell stuff etc. I'm interested in seeing what happens with a 5ghz SB-E for example.

Besides, even if we were talking about the majority of gamers with GCN GPUs I don't think mantle is something they should use yet... Unless they're enthusiasts who are just interested in playing with the tech.

-Only support for APUs, Hawaii chips and 260X
-Crossfire basically not supported (big bugs and lots of stuttering)
-limited laptop support
-no portrait mode support
-Since there are so many known issues AMD made a web page specifically for those issues

And that's just what AMD is telling reviewers and enthusiasts.
 
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