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Is it going to work with the m290x in laptops ? Until the AMD cards stop price gouging this doesnt mean a ton for me but I would go ahead and go amd in the next laptop i purchase if it works on the mobile 290x.
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Pretty much what I expected...

yay for overhyped tech...
 
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Uninstalling TI
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post #534 of 1174
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That's what a lot of us are unsure of. Is Mantle easier enough to encourage programmers to essentially figure it out/stop being lazy.
I claimed I had no problem? I believe I claimed I had no CPU bottleneck. Which I don't, I barely have a single title I am CPU bound/limited in due to crappy programming at 5.1 GHz on my 3770K.

Mantle doesn't fix anything, at least not yet. Mantle requires people to do good threading/optimizations, which arguably can be done in DirectX 11, if anybody was willing to do the work.
I don't know what else to tell you other than you are wrong because your concept of what is a "bottleneck" is confused.

You dont get it do you? Even if there is no faster Desktop CPU then 4960X you can still be a CPU bottlenecked. Yes a 3770K OCed will bottleneck a lot of cards out there but not to the point you are getting under 60 fps so people don't care. To define a CPU bottleneck is easy. If a faster CPU (Future CPU) will get you more fps in the game with same GPU then you have CPU bottleneck. CPU utilization means nothing. The potential a CPU might have means nothing in real world applications and games.
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does eyefinity have glaring issues on Hawaii GPU or is that strictly on GCN and older chips?

If they can improve eyefinity I may just jump back to the red team because Im plan on rocking the 3570K for a long, long time

then again for games in a few years down the road i wonder if they'll be GPU-bound or 3570K bound for 3x1080p
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I kinda hate this site's member for this reason. May be u should fix this.

Any Mantle topic, they bring in GSync/NVAPI, Any G-sync topic they bring in Mantle. Any win8 thread they tell u how awesome win7 is. ffs it is just a win8 update thread, why bring in startmenu prob/win7.

The only way to deduce the gains made from mantle is to compare it to other things. So, Mantle on Vs. Mantle off. Mantle on (amd) Vs. GK110 on DX11. Since i'm one of the only people who has mentioned NVAPI, I take offense to your comments, as I was not trying to derail the thread. I was only trying to gain a better understanding of the differences between the two. A few people were gracious enough to respond, with hard facts on the differences. Those posts were actually an overall benefit to the thread, as many many people are confused as to how/what NVAPI works/is. Me being one of them, until 3 hours ago.

So far this "mantle topic" has been 99% devoid of gysnc. One statement was made towards it. It is completely intelligible, thus doesn't count, & the other one is me saying "sync is a whole other ball of wax." So far this thread has been 90% on topic. 5entinel hasn't had to lock the thread, & I haven't noticed any deleted posts. That's pretty damned good for an AMD product news thread. You should be congratulating your fellow OCN member, not ranting & raving while breaching TOS with offensive abbreviations.

Opinions, butt holes, stuff...
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does eyefinity have glaring issues on Hawaii GPU or is that strictly on GCN and older chips?

If they can improve eyefinity I may just jump back to the red team because Im plan on rocking the 3570K for a long, long time

then again for games in a few years down the road i wonder if they'll be GPU-bound or 3570K bound for 3x1080p

As of right now, from what I understand @ least... Frame pacing is non-issue on Hawaii with xfire+eyefinity. The only issue with mantle & eyefinity is portrait support & xfire. Both will be resolved quickly. (hopefully)
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Uninstalling TI

This, but with my 780.
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So...!? Is it worth to swap my gtx 780 with 290?

i don't think so. just oc your 780 a bit.
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i don't think so. just oc your 780 a bit.

Would have to agree. I'm extremely interested in switching back to the red team for the first time in 5 years, but i'll likely be holding out for GCN 2.0. By then we should have full understanding of mantle's implications on the market.

It seems to me some companies may end up really disliking it for the simple fact that they may view it as profit reducer. I draw this opinion from the fact it will allow you to do more with less hardware.
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