Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [Various] AMD Mantle release (BF4)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Various] AMD Mantle release (BF4) - Page 67

post #661 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by erocker View Post

Going by some people's reactions you would think they've spent thousands of dollars on it. I say give those people the broken driver. This way they'll be spending their time fixing their machines instead of crying about their driver they don't have.
some people actually bought GCN cards because of mantle so it's anything but free. Companies don't make things for free not matter what it seems like. These delays are getting silly, this driver was supposed to be ready last year.
Bender
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i5-2500k @ 4.6Ghz Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 Sapphire AMD R9 290X Tri-X (1050/1300mhz)  EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 (How do you OC?) 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
8GB 1600Mhz OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD windows 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus MG279Q Logitech G510  Corsair TX750 CM II 690 Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
CM Sentinel Advance  some big corsair one beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250 Ohm SoundBlaster Z Soundcard 
  hide details  
Reply
Bender
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i5-2500k @ 4.6Ghz Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 Sapphire AMD R9 290X Tri-X (1050/1300mhz)  EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 (How do you OC?) 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
8GB 1600Mhz OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD windows 10 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus MG279Q Logitech G510  Corsair TX750 CM II 690 Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
CM Sentinel Advance  some big corsair one beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250 Ohm SoundBlaster Z Soundcard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #662 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarmageddon88 View Post

Ask me how much less I could care

i7 2600k at 4.5ghz
SLI lightning xtreme 580s at stock clocks

B4 = 90 -120 FPS..... until my graphics card/cpu can no longer live up to being close to my monitors refresh rate, I dont really care what AMD offers or how many percent gain there is

Obviously you do care since you post in this thread. tongue.gif
Oxygène
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600 MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic VTX3D R9 390 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyper X Kingston HyperX Fury ADATA SP550 ADATA SX8000 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Stock Windows 10 Dell U2711 Microsoft WK 800 
PowerCaseMouse
Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W NZXT. Phantom 410 Microsoft WM 1000 
  hide details  
Reply
Oxygène
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600 MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic VTX3D R9 390 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyper X Kingston HyperX Fury ADATA SP550 ADATA SX8000 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Stock Windows 10 Dell U2711 Microsoft WK 800 
PowerCaseMouse
Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W NZXT. Phantom 410 Microsoft WM 1000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #663 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarmageddon88 View Post

Ask me how much less I could care

i7 2600k at 4.5ghz
SLI lightning xtreme 580s at stock clocks

B4 = 90 -120 FPS..... until my graphics card/cpu can no longer live up to being close to my monitors refresh rate, I dont really care what AMD offers or how many percent gain there is

You just do that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by th3illusiveman View Post

some people actually bought GCN cards because of mantle so it's anything but free. Companies don't make things for free not matter what it seems like. These delays are getting silly, this driver was supposed to be ready last year.

it doe snot work on your cards though.
Intel Killer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 4.4ghz Gigabyte 990fx XFX R9 290 (1100/1250) 8GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
750GB Momentus XT Corsair H80i Windows 8 3x 23" 1080p 
KeyboardPower
Logitech Mk 710 OCZ 1000 watts 
  hide details  
Reply
Intel Killer
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 4.4ghz Gigabyte 990fx XFX R9 290 (1100/1250) 8GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
750GB Momentus XT Corsair H80i Windows 8 3x 23" 1080p 
KeyboardPower
Logitech Mk 710 OCZ 1000 watts 
  hide details  
Reply
post #664 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlDyer View Post

Main thing is that it's free thumb.gif

free, assuming you have already purchased the graphics cards, & the games that run it. Soooooo not quite free.
IT'S WHITE
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4930k Rampage iv extreme Black Edition GTX Titan  GTX Titan 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
GTX Titan GskillZ Trident X Samsung EVO samsung 840 evo 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Asus External Blue Ray drive 4x 480x60mm Swiftech MCP35x2 Win 8.1.2 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
AOC AOC AOC EVGA G2 1300w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
STH10 RAT7 what is this?  Vali / Modi :(  
Other
Corsair HX850 
  hide details  
Reply
IT'S WHITE
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4930k Rampage iv extreme Black Edition GTX Titan  GTX Titan 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
GTX Titan GskillZ Trident X Samsung EVO samsung 840 evo 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Asus External Blue Ray drive 4x 480x60mm Swiftech MCP35x2 Win 8.1.2 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
AOC AOC AOC EVGA G2 1300w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
STH10 RAT7 what is this?  Vali / Modi :(  
Other
Corsair HX850 
  hide details  
Reply
post #665 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by kzone75 View Post

Obviously you do care since you post in this thread. tongue.gif

Well then...perhaps I do?

Care about my awesome system still being relevant biggrin.gif

I remember scoffing at people with graphics cards 2 generations old when I got my cards. rolleyes.gif But honestly, the performance jump from 2 generations prior to the 580 and 2 generations post is nowhere near equal.
post #666 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by erocker View Post

Going by some people's reactions you would think they've spent thousands of dollars on it. I say give those people the broken driver. This way they'll be spending their time fixing their machines instead of crying about their driver they don't have.

Or maybe people did spend thousands and currently have broken hardware that this patch (non-mantle related is fixing). And maybe they aren't pissed that it is delayed so it will properly work, maybe they are pissed because even after it is fixed the media gets it for 24 hours first.

long promised outstanding frame pacing fix for high res and multi monitors is being fixed-this has been promised for a very very very long time.
long standing crackling in vsync is supposedly fixed
There are others who still have black screen issues rendering their cards broken, and they are hoping an undocumented fix will appear in this release.


So yeah, some people probably have a right to be pissed, that AMD is making them wait an extra day, so the media can benchmark for epeen and amd can get their marketing before the crap they bought gets fixed.

Once again scumbag marketing seems to think that showing integrity by putting out your fix for a defective product you sold should take second place behind essentially a commercial for their product.
Edited by the9quad - 1/31/14 at 1:25pm
post #667 of 1174
best part is that media results rarely translate into real world gains. This seems to the case with both companies, & also seems to be getting worse. @least, with the hardware.
IT'S WHITE
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4930k Rampage iv extreme Black Edition GTX Titan  GTX Titan 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
GTX Titan GskillZ Trident X Samsung EVO samsung 840 evo 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Asus External Blue Ray drive 4x 480x60mm Swiftech MCP35x2 Win 8.1.2 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
AOC AOC AOC EVGA G2 1300w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
STH10 RAT7 what is this?  Vali / Modi :(  
Other
Corsair HX850 
  hide details  
Reply
IT'S WHITE
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4930k Rampage iv extreme Black Edition GTX Titan  GTX Titan 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
GTX Titan GskillZ Trident X Samsung EVO samsung 840 evo 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Asus External Blue Ray drive 4x 480x60mm Swiftech MCP35x2 Win 8.1.2 
MonitorMonitorMonitorPower
AOC AOC AOC EVGA G2 1300w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
STH10 RAT7 what is this?  Vali / Modi :(  
Other
Corsair HX850 
  hide details  
Reply
post #668 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by skupples View Post

lachen.gif

i'm pretty sure nv drive packs stopped including fermi after 314 WHQL. It's strange how the supposed GPU killer driver didn't kill my 480's. I even ran win8+gpu killer drivers. I think half of those complaints/RMA's were people capitalizing off of the hysteria.
The 480's have rock hard VRM's that is the only reason they manage to function at those temps my 570 however had the weakest piss poor VRM's on the planet. All so Nvidia could save a few bucks on a high end card... (an obvious design flaw and they fixed it in rev 2.0)

Yes I'm still mad about that they pulled a total Sapphire, MSI and XFX on me
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinmann View Post

lachen.gif
Well he is right they were "done" with the R9 290X they just chose to give it a very bad cooler. A cooler that actually makes the card runs so hot it consumes 20% more that it should've. (not joking about that it is outrageous) As for noise People saying it is a leafblower I can't really agree on that I myself had a pair of them idle they were quiet under gaming I couldn't really care (had em locked at 60% fan to avoid throttling) and that is coming from someone having no case to suppress at all.
Edited by maarten12100 - 1/31/14 at 1:35pm
post #669 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hattifnatten View Post

About 25% according to DICE's internal testing.

so mantle seems pretty AMD biased right now huh. But is the point of mantle to eliminate CPU bottlenecks? Because that's what it looks like it does.
The Sleeper
(10 items)
 
 
Sony Xperia Z3
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8320  Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 MSI Radeon 7950 MSI Radeon 7950 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600mhz Samsung 470 SSD Corsair H80i Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium 
PowerCase
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel SU7300 Core2Duo 1.6 Ghz Alienware OEM Nvidia 335m 8 GB PNY memory 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
Samsing 840 SSD Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Generic PNP monitor @ 75hz 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon 801 @ 2.5 Ghz Adreno 330 3 GB 32 GB  
CoolingOSMonitor
Blow on it Android 4.4.4 1920x1080 LCD 
  hide details  
Reply
The Sleeper
(10 items)
 
 
Sony Xperia Z3
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8320  Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 MSI Radeon 7950 MSI Radeon 7950 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600mhz Samsung 470 SSD Corsair H80i Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium 
PowerCase
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel SU7300 Core2Duo 1.6 Ghz Alienware OEM Nvidia 335m 8 GB PNY memory 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
Samsing 840 SSD Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Generic PNP monitor @ 75hz 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon 801 @ 2.5 Ghz Adreno 330 3 GB 32 GB  
CoolingOSMonitor
Blow on it Android 4.4.4 1920x1080 LCD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #670 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by bencher View Post


Tell me some more about this broken hardware that needs fixing.

Vsync-sound crackling with Crossfire., needless to say from beta 5 all the way to the 13.12 WHQL's that issue has not been fixed. I'll just post this from the hardocp review

"First and foremost, when I installed these cards I used the 13.11 Beta 2 drivers. I skipped Beta 4 during the first few weeks of gaming because I did not want to change midstream while doing 290X testing, but towards the end of the cycle I went ahead and upgraded to Beta 5. Beta 5 drivers gave me terribly "scratchy" audio, so I reverted to Beta 2. Going through the install notes, I did not see anything that was specific to my setup as being benefited anyway. So my comments here are based on the Beta 2 v13.11 drivers. I actually have not used any of the WHQL drivers with these cards. And on that note, AMD actually seems to be getting back in line with getting betas out in a somewhat timely manner, but still NVIDIA whips the llama's ass on the beta driver front."


The framepacing from the press notes of Cat 14.1 via MaximumPC

"The Catalyst 14.1 drivers will also include AMD's "phase 2" frame pacing driver it promised last year. If you recall, the first release of this driver only supported it on one display up to 2560x1600 resolution. It also only worked on DX11 games. Phase 2 broadens support to DX10 and DX11, and allows resolutions higher than 2560x1600, so those of you with 4K panels will appreciate this update."

Lastly go see the black screen thread here or any tech forum that talks about the 200 series. And witness it was supposed to be fixed in the beta 13.11 beta 4 and5's and 13.12 WHQLS:


Feature Highlights of The AMD Catalyst 13.11 Beta9.4 Driver for Windows
Includes all Feature Highlights of The AMD Catalyst 13.11 Beta9.2 Driver
May resolve intermittent black screens or display loss observed on some AMD Radeon™ R9 290X and AMD Radeon R9 290 graphics cards
Improves AMD CrossFire™ scaling in the multi-player portion of Call of Duty®: Ghosts
AMD Enduro Technology Profile updates:
XCOM: Enemy Unknown
Need for Speed Rivals
Edited by the9quad - 1/31/14 at 3:22pm
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Rumors and Unconfirmed Articles › [Various] AMD Mantle release (BF4)