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post #11 of 97
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Interesting and there is some way I can put another pump without replacing the current one?
post #12 of 97
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Originally Posted by Buzz247 View Post

Hold on guys - keep this simple - Think about it....

Assuming there is no overclocking going on and we are only dealing with stock values:

4770k 85wTDP
r9 280 FX 250W TDP EACH

result is 585W TDP to be dissipated.

You dual rads can efficiently dissipate about 200-230w each. Even if we assume a perfect environment, loops and situation (which is near impossible unless in an environment controlled lab) and they are able to efficiently perform at 230w each, that still leaves 135w shortage.

Bottom line... you have WAY too much on that loop for that small of rad surface. To efficiently cool and maintain a decent equilibrium during heavy gaming, mining, etc, you would need 2x360 at least and prob an additional 240 or 120.

I might add in here: your pump res combo is severely lacking in power for the size loop and restriction you have. that 750 (x20 pump) is notoriously underpowered. You really should have gone with the D5 version of that res combo. The lack of flow + lack of rad space + poor fans = high temps. Fix these and you will see changes.

Some valid points, however even a 240 Rad with GOOD fans would cool better than the temps he's getting.

OP, do this:
Remount your CPU block. Pull it off, clean the Thermal Paste off, re-apply and then mount the CPU block again. 70C is awful, so I believe this is a mounting problem.
Also, get some better fans. Those XSPC fans would be better than the Cooler MAsters, but you really need to get some better fans. Those Yate Loons another user linked would be good fans (you don't need to spend 20 bucks per fan to get good performing fans).

Additionally, as Buzz247 stated, you should look in to getting another, thicker 240 Rad and a better pump. I would also advise you read up on watercooling a bit more so you understand what you need to consider when planning your next loop. It's a lesson learned, we all do this kind of thing so don't take our advice as coming down on you, we're just trying to help you get your system to run efficiently so you can be happy. smile.gif
post #13 of 97
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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Some valid points, however even a 240 Rad with GOOD fans would cool better than the temps he's getting.

OP, do this:
Remount your CPU block. Pull it off, clean the Thermal Paste off, re-apply and then mount the CPU block again. 70C is awful, so I believe this is a mounting problem.

Valid point - seeing how much and how applied and what type would be helpful in assessing.

Thicker rads are generally optimised for lower rpm fans (read that as 900-1200rpm). Thinner rads need far higher speeds usually either due to less fin surface area from being thinner, or from higher FPI. SO.... not sure the yate loon and thicker rad combo is a solid call. kinda one or the other usually. Thin rad/high speed/high static or thick rad/med speed/decent static is the normal combo. anything is better than those Cm fans tho lol. Those XSPC Xigmatek fans aren't too shabby usually
Edited by Buzz247 - 2/1/14 at 5:28pm
post #14 of 97
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Originally Posted by Cratoscr View Post

Interesting and there is some way I can put another pump without replacing the current one?
sadly no. That pump is built INSIDE the res. One of the major drawbacks of that particular combo. The D5 version of that combo has the pump mounted on the back of the res, so service and replacement is easy
post #15 of 97
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Thank you very much, saying this pump? http://koolance.com/pmp-500-pump-g-1-4-bsp
post #16 of 97
That would be one pump of a D5 variant. But what I was specifically referring to was the same res you have with a D5 attached - it's a kit from XSPC still. Just uses a D5 pump is all. Click that link to see what I mean. To use a D5 pump of any kind, you would need to replace your res anyway.
post #17 of 97
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Reservoir will change too, sure I'll buy the kooolnace pmp 500 and a new reservoir
post #18 of 97
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Originally Posted by Cratoscr View Post

Thank you very much, saying this pump? http://koolance.com/pmp-500-pump-g-1-4-bsp

Please don't use that pump, it's more powerful than a D5 but is extremely noisy unless you get the matching controller to slow it down.

I always use fast fans as they can be slowed down with a controller or a simple volt mod, Slow fans can't made faster wink.gif
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1 x 120G ssd,3 x 2tb WD Green, 1 x 300gb Veloci... External Win 10Pro 64bit Lg 27" 
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Logitech G19 TT Q-Power 750w CM 690II Cyber Sniper 
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post #19 of 97
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Originally Posted by BadDad62 View Post

Please don't use that pump, it's more powerful than a D5 but is extremely noisy unless you get the matching controller to slow it down.

I always use fast fans as they can be slowed down with a controller or a simple volt mod, Slow fans can't made faster wink.gif
What pump you recommend me??
I have no more problems so I thought at that
post #20 of 97
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Originally Posted by Cratoscr View Post

What pump you recommend me??
I have no more problems so I thought at that

Good ole' faithful pump that is the most common and favorite of many watercoolers is the Swiftech MCP655. This pump also has a lot of rebranded variants by a lot of companies. You can also buy just the pump itself and get a pump top (also called a head) of your choosing. The one I linked is a pump and top together.

There are other types and variants such as the Ehiem series that are just as powerful and have more options, but generally for more advanced cooling system needs. for a loop like yours, a D5 class pump is more than enough. You can find these pumps as part of pump res combos in either bay res or tube res versions. Look around and see what you like. Just stick with some version of a D5 and should be just fine
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