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Have the 170 pushing my loop of a 4790k and a Titan, it's doing a good job...smile.gif
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post #82 of 337
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Originally Posted by carlhil2 View Post

Have the 170 pushing my loop of a 4790k and a Titan, it's doing a good job...smile.gif
Ok thanks for feedback, I guess it must draw liquid out of the Res ,anyway even if not obvious, as it would have to steadly suck fluid out under a vacum ,by the pasing water, it would be nice to know how much it does it, I guess one way to find out is when i'm filling loop with dye ,as I will be doing, and see how fast it gets sucked through system, I suppose some of you dudes have seen that happen ?
All good, It works for cooling, the main thing,I also have i7 4790K and a R9 290x tri -x OC
post #83 of 337
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Originally Posted by Bertovzki View Post

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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

There appears to be very little fluid actually cycling up through the res. The inlets and the outlet are underneath a tapered anti-vortex baffle that's sort of upside-down cone shaped so that most of the flow that enters the res appears to exit without making it up into the res itself (see my generic drawing below), though I'm sure some flow does, just not very much. Even dual D5 varios on '5' with a flow rate well over 2GPM exhibits almost no movement in the res itself. If I didn't have a flow meter showing me otherwise, and good temps all around, by just looking at the res I'd question whether my pump(s) were working at all.
Image (Click to show)
So to sum it up,as im now concerned iv bought a lemon, is it any good and does it cycle any water out of pump at all, are all you guys happy with this pump combo, as I will just buy another one if I better to get a stand alone res of some sort, or what ever is concidered the best pump ?

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Originally Posted by Bertovzki View Post

It seems like a useless pump to me if it does not cycle any water out of resevoir, I liked the look of it when i bought it, but did not realize it had this fault

A lemon? A fault? lol

I'm not convinced at all there is any benefit to having a visible flow through a reservoir, unless you wanted to run a temporary use show coolant like Mayhems Aurora that has a pearl swirling effect that the Photon would be no good for. Seems to me like the anti-vortex baffles are a nice feature. I really like my Photons. The purpose of a reservoir is to keep your pump fed with fluid and to trap air bubbles and the Photon manages to do both quite well. No complaints from me.
post #84 of 337
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post


A lemon? A fault? lol

I'm not convinced at all there is any benefit to having a visible flow through a reservoir, unless you wanted to run a temporary use show coolant like Mayhems Aurora that has a pearl swirling effect that the Photon would be no good for. Seems to me like the anti-vortex baffles are a nice feature. I really like my Photons. The purpose of a reservoir is to keep your pump fed with fluid and to trap air bubbles and the Photon manages to do both quite well. No complaints from me.
Ok great ,thanks for the info, it all sounds good to me too, not planing aurora, it was just initial reply earlier, that made me say last post, I got the impression that the liquid in the res just didn't move at all and stayed kind of stagnant, but logic would say that it must move enough to cycle fluid completely after a while ,because of the suction effect of fluid going past res constantly

I do like the clean lines of the res, i just got the aluminium ring for mine too , I'm starting my build in a few days, cutting into my 750D ,quite a bit of moding, I will be linig with acrylic
post #85 of 337
i didnt like the way my photon/pump combo wasnt cycling the fluid in the large res as well. I changed how my loop works and made the top a fill/return port.

before with bottom in and outs


after with fill at top.





the first two pictures the pump creates a slight foaming on max setting 5. but the last picture its reduced when turned to pump setting 3.
post #86 of 337
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Originally Posted by TheGin View Post

i didnt like the way my photon/pump combo wasnt cycling the fluid in the large res as well. I changed how my loop works and made the top a fill/return port. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
before with bottom in and outs


after with fill at top.




the first two pictures the pump creates a slight foaming on max setting 5. but the last picture its reduced when turned to pump setting 3.

Ok thanks for the feedback, at this stage I will have to try it first, as it was designed to be used, and I will put dye in after it is filled and bleed ,and see how fast it travels through my loop,if its moderately ok I will leave it ,if it does very little to cycle it through loop, then I will look at other options, as it is no good having a bottle of water on top of the loop doing absolutely nothing but being a bottle of water lol .
Personally I hope it does cycle enough,iv seen no proof of this, I will do the test and film it when the time comes, it will be months away yet before im at that stage.
I still like the idea of a larger amount of fluid in a loop,even though it is common knowledge that it does little to nothing to cool any more, but if you took this to the extreme and had a swimming pool full of water for your res then you would not even need rad's and fan's, so if i have cool intake air flowing over my 270 glass res then I think this is good even if only marginal,but this has to cycle to be of any use what so ever, it's mostly just the thought of fluid sitting there stagnant ,regardless of my previous comment.

I did just have a look at the pump and baffle ,it looks like it will do very little to cycle anything.

Unicr0nhunter is happy with his ,I hope I will be too,as long as it cycles something reasonable I will be happy.
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Originally Posted by TheGin View Post

i didnt like the way my photon/pump combo wasnt cycling the fluid in the large res as well. I changed how my loop works and made the top a fill/return port.

And how did you know it was not cycling and made you unhappy with it, did you see when putting dye in ? how could you tell its not doing much ?
Edited by Bertovzki - 10/19/14 at 6:08pm
post #88 of 337
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Originally Posted by TheGin View Post

i didnt like the way my photon/pump combo wasnt cycling the fluid in the large res as well. I changed how my loop works and made the top a fill/return port.

before with bottom in and outs


after with fill at top.





the first two pictures the pump creates a slight foaming on max setting 5. but the last picture its reduced when turned to pump setting 3.
How much did the temps drops with this change? - and sorry a stupid question how did u fill the res?
post #89 of 337
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Originally Posted by Bertovzki View Post

And how did you know it was not cycling and made you unhappy with it, did you see when putting dye in ? how could you tell its not doing much ?

i know it doesn't cycle well because obviously i use dye. when i used both in and out at the bottom and added dye from the top it took a few hours for the dye to not be so concentrated in the res. the only issue with the way i setup the res is that it creates foaming unless you turn the pump down from max to 3 or 4. I found no temp diff between 5 and 3 pump setting anyways.

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Originally Posted by einnairo View Post

How much did the temps drops with this change? - and sorry a stupid question how did u fill the res?

after i changed it to return to the top? i wouldnt know since i added a 2nd card and 2011 socket type. pretty much changed the whole build. im at constant 1.41v@4.7 and both cards are clocked constant with kboost. at idle i still stay around 33c and stress at 58-60c after an hour

I fill the res at the top with the line removed all the way to the top and it drops to what you see in the pictures.
Edited by TheGin - 10/21/14 at 9:19pm
post #90 of 337
Interesting. I don't recall facing the cycling issue. The time was more spent on filling up the res instead. What I did was fill with distilled, cycled and then poured in the dye. It did not take long before the dye completely mixed.
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