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Finished cable management one or two tweaks still to come. I am just waiting on my custom cable for ATX 24pin from the rear to psu. Other picture shows how close the rad is to mobo.

So you are running a 45mm thick rad up top on mobo side? That IS tight! I find that a 30mm with 25mm fans barely clear the chipset heatsinks on my Maximus Extreme VI after mounting the rad grills I used. Would you have clearance for push fans if you wanted them?

Clearance in my build:


Also planning on extending that one cable that goes over the heatsink, so I can run it along side of it instead of over.
Edited by cgipson1 - 4/7/14 at 11:33pm
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So you are running a 45mm thick rad up top on mobo side? That IS tight! I find that a 30mm with 25mm fans barely clear the chipset heatsinks on my Maximus Extreme VI after mounting the rad grills I used. Would you have clearance for push fans if you wanted them?

Also planning on extending that one cable that goes over the heatsink, so I can run it along side of it instead of over.

Ye it is a very tight fit with the 45mm rad but some how it has worked out fine. i wont be able to fit push like you have. Only if i do what you have done by putting fans on the outside but with the current fans i think one set would be enough due to the positive effect of air flow inside the case. I think its because of the mobo that i am able to fit it. I must say it was luck smile.gif I am starting to look at fitting a front RAD a 25mm x 420 in front of my res. I think i have found a way for the fans to be on the outside of the case between the cover of the case. Will have to config the dust covers as well. The only thing i am a bit worried about exhausting hot air into the case instead of out. I see you have fitted a rad on front as well. Do you have a reservoir?
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Ye it is a very tight fit with the 45mm rad but some how it has worked out fine. i wont be able to fit push like you have. Only if i do what you have done by putting fans on the outside but with the current fans i think one set would be enough due to the positive effect of air flow inside the case. I think its because of the mobo that i am able to fit it. I must say it was luck smile.gif I am starting to look at fitting a front RAD a 25mm x 420 in front of my res. I think i have found a way for the fans to be on the outside of the case between the cover of the case. Will have to config the dust covers as well. The only thing i am a bit worried about exhausting hot air into the case instead of out. I see you have fitted a rad on front as well. Do you have a reservoir?

I have a bay res... a Monsoon. I think it will work well, once I get it all plumbed.




I had considered mounting fans on front, underneath the bezel like you mentioned. I did some test fitting, and it could be done... but 25mm fans are extremely tight... not much room for filters unless you just stretch filter material directly over the fan.

I also initially fitted a 420 rad on the front mobo side, and it left just a tiny space to work tubing through to get to the drive bay side (at top center front). It can be done, but I decided that the 280 I currently have there would be enough. Especially with the extra 140mm intake fan that gave me... to put some cool air into the case to compensate for the warm air from the rad. I think it will work well (but who knows, until I get it up and running and test it, right?)

I decided that push/pull was a necessity for maximum efficiency... as testing shows that to be about 30% more efficient than just PULL alone, and 20% more efficient than PUSH alone. I like it because I can run lower RPMs and still get good cooling due to the increased efficiency.

Link on rad efficiency with different fan configs....

http://www.coolingtechnique.com/martinsliquidlab/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

Link on rad efficiency and thickness of rad: http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/14/360-radiator-shootout-summary/
Edited by cgipson1 - 4/8/14 at 11:48am
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@ cgipson1

Thanks very much for the information. That was very much usefull and heaps of info. At least so far I have my fans configuration right. as to improve the air flow 20 to 30 % it would be good in push/pull but I don't think I have the space now in this build for that. I have seen some low profile fans with very good airflow but can't remember the site will try search it. My current temps are very good comparing to what I used to have. CPU idle around 27 and load 38 to 40c. The major improvement was my GPU 28 idle and 34 to 38 under load. Where that used to be double that.i also live in a very warm climate area. Temp on average here is around 28c.
Edited by BazG - 4/8/14 at 5:08pm
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Thanks very much for the information. That was very much usefull and heaps of info. At least so far I have my fans configuration right. as to improve the air flow 20 to 30 % it would be good in push/pull but I don't think I have the space now in this build for that. I have seen some low profile fans with very good airflow but can't remember the site will try search it. My current temps are very good comparing to what I used to have. CPU idle around 27 and load 38 to 40c. The major improvement was my GPU 28 idle and 34 to 38 under load. Where that used to be double that.i also live in a very warm climate area. Temp on average here is around 28c.

Yea.. with temps like that... you don't need to worry about it... lol! Good looking build, too! thumb.gif
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Any thoughts as to why Lian-Li didn't make a vent or louvers under where the CPU sits? I notice at least one owner has modified their case in order to achieve this. It seems that running the PSU "fan side up" would be the best option for the D600 - or am I mistaken?

I'm still at the test fit stage and waiting on components (water blocks) so I can easily change the orientation of the PSU.
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Any thoughts as to why Lian-Li didn't make a vent or louvers under where the CPU sits? I notice at least one owner has modified their case in order to achieve this. It seems that running the PSU "fan side up" would be the best option for the D600 - or am I mistaken?

I'm still at the test fit stage and waiting on components (water blocks) so I can easily change the orientation of the PSU.

Vents or Louvers where the CPU sits? You mean on the mobo tray? There is a huge hole to work with there on the D600 to allow heatsink / waterblock installs after the motherboard is already in place. Or did you mean PSU? If so, it is easy to drill some holes, or even make a full sized blowhole in the bottom of the case. The D600 is a little more of an advanced case. Those that buy it may use a really powerful PSU.... and the fan hole locations for some PSU's vary by several inches. It is hard for a manufacturer to determine where to put a PSU blowhole because of the differences, and that may be why they didn't provide hole / vents pre-cut. I hate having a precut hole that doesn't fit my PSU exactly.... lol!

Why would you want to suck preheated air into the PSU? And it would also disrupt the airflow patterns having air being exhausted both at top and bottom, creating turbulence... unless you put in a separator. It would still work, but I don't think it be as efficient, especially on an liquid cooled box. It might work better on an air cooled box... since the added turbulence might help to break up any dead air pockets around the GPU's (if running multiples)

Fan side down, PSU gets nice, cool air.... and it doesn't screw with the airflow.
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@ cgipson1,


Thanks for the response; to clarify I was referring to the PSU. My preference was to install my PSU fan side down, but on many photos of installs in the D600 (including Lian-Li themselves at shows), the PSU has been installed with the fan side up. This I always thought seemed a little odd, as any air-cooled GPU's would be blowing hot air into the PSU.

My SS Strider is 180mm, so its an easy fit in the case. I can always make a vent as you have suggested.
Edited by Reworker - 4/13/14 at 10:26pm
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@ cgipson1,


Thanks for the response; to clarify I was referring to the PSU. My preference was to install my PSU fan side down, but on many photos of installs in the D600 (including Lian-Li themselves at shows), the PSU has been installed with the fan side up. This I always thought seemed a little odd, as any air-cooled GPU's would be blowing hot air into the PSU.

My SS Strider is 180mm, so its an easy fit in the case. I can always make a vent as you have suggested,

I thought so... I make typo's like that all the time! lol! Yea... easy to do! Post some pics when you get it up! Got a build log on it yet?
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@ cgipson1,


No build log yet - but I may create one shortly. My rate of progress though is rather slow, as I am always having second thoughts about my component choices. For example, now I have 3 reference Asus GTX 680 2GB cards, which I want to water-cool anyway, so I ordered the appropriate blocks for these.

However, I'm wondering if I should choose something else for this new build. I don't mean wait for parts that are not yet on the market, such as "big" Maxwell, but cards like the R 290. In central Europe there has not been the mining craze, and as such these cards remain considerable cheaper than their Nvidia competition.

With this hobby, one day I can be absolutely sure which parts I want to get and incorporate into my build, then the next minute I can read a post here on OCN or a review, and I can totally change my mind:-)! I wonder how many of us do the same?
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