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post #1541 of 2255
I had my hadron psu do the same thing and I had to rma it... Do you have a psu tester?
post #1542 of 2255
The PSU is stock Hadron Air. I've checked it every way but Sunday with a multi-meter and it appears to have all the right voltages in all the right places.

Now I'm looking at the Z97E-ITX/ac mobo. I've cleared the CMOS, tried plugging things in one at a time, ran the monitor off the built in GPU, etc.

Nothing is working. Not even a beep out of it.

I have to run to town to buy another CMOS battery in case that's it.

Anything else I should try?
post #1543 of 2255
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Originally Posted by sigmatero View Post

The PSU is stock Hadron Air. I've checked it every way but Sunday with a multi-meter and it appears to have all the right voltages in all the right places.

Now I'm looking at the Z97E-ITX/ac mobo. I've cleared the CMOS, tried plugging things in one at a time, ran the monitor off the built in GPU, etc.

Nothing is working. Not even a beep out of it.

I have to run to town to buy another CMOS battery in case that's it.

Anything else I should try?

It sounds like your motherboard is faulty, to be honest. PSUs are hard to mess up-- if the fans spin on, and the voltages are good, then it's probably fine. But if your motherboard won't respond, then it's likely the problem. I'd only suggest running a test with just the 24-pin mainboard, and the 8-pin CPU plugged in, with the CPU and one RAM module plugged in. If you can get that to work, then you're good. If not, time to RMA the motherboard.
post #1544 of 2255
Good advice... that's exactly what I just did and finally got things working. Not sure exactly what it was but at this point I don't care, as long as it works and I can get this project done.

For future users that may have this problem- so I basically cleared the CMOS and disconnected everything to the mobo except for the following (and by disconnecting I mean completely removed- took memory and GPU boards out; disconnected wifi antenna and both SSDs, etc.):

Things I left connected:
* 24 pin ATX connector
* 8 pin mobo power connector
* one stick of memory (A side)
* monitor connected to mobo gpu
* Logitech wireless USB dongle (for mouse and keyboard)

Once I got the BIOS screen to come up then I connected my hard drives to get to windows and then was able to connect my monitors and wifi.

So this is probably old-hat to you experienced overclockers but I'm still learning so I definitely got an education from this little experience. Like 10 hours of education- doh.

One helpful thing I learned was what basically every single wire that comes out of the power supply is for. This is pretty helpful. Especially knowing what the three power/switching wires on the ATX connector (green, purple, gray) do during each stage of the boot process.

Now I just need to figure out how to fall asleep at night because I can't quit thinking about what caused the problem in the first place. From reading online reviews of the Z97 I'm guessing it has to do with the power supply causing some issue with the mobo which makes you reset things to get it to POST. Think I'll try a MSI Z97 board and keep this one as a backup. I've heard ASUS has bad RMA/customer service and I certainly don't trust ASRock now.

Thanks for all your help.
post #1545 of 2255
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Originally Posted by sigmatero View Post

Now I just need to figure out how to fall asleep at night because I can't quit thinking about what caused the problem in the first place. From reading online reviews of the Z97 I'm guessing it has to do with the power supply causing some issue with the mobo which makes you reset things to get it to POST. Think I'll try a MSI Z97 board and keep this one as a backup. I've heard ASUS has bad RMA/customer service and I certainly don't trust ASRock now.

ASRock isn't the greatest brand when it comes to quality, to be honest. They have a very small North American presence compared to the other big motherboard manufacturers, so all they have going are decent boards at great prices-- quality control isn't very good. I was at a Microcenter recently, and half their Z97 boards weighed about 30% more than the other half-- turns out their alloys in the chokes and heatsinks are all varied per batch.

If you're looking for durability, Gigabyte UD boards are definitely a good investment. Not many features, but if you don't really use any of them, then it's not worth nothing. The UD Z97 series has XMP, OC profiles, fan control, temperature monitoring, and plenty of fan headers for overclocking. ASUS boards are always premium... unless you get seriously unlucky and have to RMA your board, in which case, yes, ASUS customer support is awful. MSi stands just above Gigabyte in features, and just below Gigabyte in quality control.
post #1546 of 2255
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Originally Posted by sigmatero View Post

The PSU is stock Hadron Air. I've checked it every way but Sunday with a multi-meter and it appears to have all the right voltages in all the right places.

Now I'm looking at the Z97E-ITX/ac mobo. I've cleared the CMOS, tried plugging things in one at a time, ran the monitor off the built in GPU, etc.

Nothing is working. Not even a beep out of it.

I have to run to town to buy another CMOS battery in case that's it.

Anything else I should try?

Ah yeah sorry totally blanked that this was the hadron thread! rolleyes.gif

Glad you got it working.
post #1547 of 2255
Wow, the top fans should reaaaaaaally be exhaust. Flipped them around today while I was cleaning it (I put them in as intake originally, a fool I was) and it's kinda crazy how much less noise there is from the PSU. Almost night and day really.

I'll have to see how it fares in an extended play session.
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post #1548 of 2255
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Good advice... that's exactly what I just did and finally got things working. Not sure exactly what it was but at this point I don't care, as long as it works and I can get this project done.

For future users that may have this problem- so I basically cleared the CMOS and disconnected everything to the mobo except for the following (and by disconnecting I mean completely removed- took memory and GPU boards out; disconnected wifi antenna and both SSDs, etc.):

Things I left connected:
* 24 pin ATX connector
* 8 pin mobo power connector
* one stick of memory (A side)
* monitor connected to mobo gpu
* Logitech wireless USB dongle (for mouse and keyboard)

Once I got the BIOS screen to come up then I connected my hard drives to get to windows and then was able to connect my monitors and wifi.

So this is probably old-hat to you experienced overclockers but I'm still learning so I definitely got an education from this little experience. Like 10 hours of education- doh.

One helpful thing I learned was what basically every single wire that comes out of the power supply is for. This is pretty helpful. Especially knowing what the three power/switching wires on the ATX connector (green, purple, gray) do during each stage of the boot process.

Now I just need to figure out how to fall asleep at night because I can't quit thinking about what caused the problem in the first place. From reading online reviews of the Z97 I'm guessing it has to do with the power supply causing some issue with the mobo which makes you reset things to get it to POST. Think I'll try a MSI Z97 board and keep this one as a backup. I've heard ASUS has bad RMA/customer service and I certainly don't trust ASRock now.

Thanks for all your help.

Ok, I'll follow up again in case it helps someone that is using this ASRock mobo. Today I was moving my Hadron to a small and simple wood table I made that allows more air to go underneath for better cooling and I accidentally bumped the off switch in the back which did a forced shut down. When I went to reboot it did the same exact thing as before- wouldn't turn on at all (fan just briefly turned on and then off again). So on a hunch I unplugged the power cord and held the CLR CMOS button in for 10 seconds and then plugged it back in and booted it up just fine.

So it appears that this mobo doesn't tolerate being turned off with anything but a proper shut down. This is the first board that I've had that exhibits this behavior. This isn't a "feature" is it?
Edited by sigmatero - 5/21/15 at 3:36pm
post #1549 of 2255
WOOT WOOT! doing a build my hadron should be here tomorrow,

Parts
- evga stinger z97 core motherboard
- crucial ballistics sport low profile 1600mhz 16gb
- intel pentium-k (i plan on overclocking the shiznit out of it)
- noctua NH-C14
- evga gtx 980 SC with the titan style cooler.
- 850 evo 500gb ssd
- hgst nas 4tb drive for all the games that i care about loading so i can read the load screens lol
post #1550 of 2255
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Originally Posted by gaguya View Post

WOOT WOOT! doing a build my hadron should be here tomorrow,

Parts
- evga stinger z97 core motherboard
- crucial ballistics sport low profile 1600mhz 16gb
- intel pentium-k (i plan on overclocking the shiznit out of it)
- noctua NH-C14
- evga gtx 980 SC with the titan style cooler.
- 850 evo 500gb ssd
- hgst nas 4tb drive for all the games that i care about loading so i can read the load screens lol

As someone who owns a Pentium k and a 690, I just want you to know that the Pentium will bottleneck the snot out of your 980. You probably would have been better off with an i5 and a 970. That said, I wish you the best of luck.
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