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post #391 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Moondrake View Post

So I decided to get rid of the Hadron, really saddens me since it's the most beautiful small case out there, but the PSU fan is driving me nuts, not especially the noise level, but that combined to the pitch.

I'm now eyeing the 250D and following components. Feel free to comment on them and make your suggestions:

CPU Cooler H100i with SP120 Quiet PWM as intakes in front or behind the rad, don't know yet
Front fan AF140 Quiet edition

As for the PSU, I don't know, I was looking at these, but please something other if you want to. 600+ option is to minimize their load
Corsair RM 550 or 650
Be quiet! Straight power 580 or 680 semi-modular

With the Hadron, is there no way to place a Silverstone SFX PSU in there with some modding?

The RM series PSU's are not bad if you can get them at a cheaper price. I'd check Newegg, they've had them on sale last few weeks. I bought my 650W at $89.99 vs. the regular $119.99/129.99 at some places. I do hate the cables for sure as they are flat and way too long for a ITX case in general.
post #392 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Torvi View Post

First of all you dont need SP edition fans, i run my stock ones at 1k rpm and i actually hear my gpu more than them. Also their air flow is nice almost the same as SP serie so it's a waste of money.

Corsair RM's are nice ones altough if you like to keep your cables managed i would go with full modulars (altough i have non modular and managed to clean up them abit)

Think will try stock and replace them if I'm not satisfied. atm I never hear my GPU at full load, I sometimes enable full speed on it just to check if it's even running. I'm sure it'll be another thing with the gpu sitting right to an intake. Thanks for the heads up

RMs are fully modular
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Originally Posted by CaptainZombie View Post

With the Hadron, is there no way to place a Silverstone SFX PSU in there with some modding?

The RM series PSU's are not bad if you can get them at a cheaper price. I'd check Newegg, they've had them on sale last few weeks. I bought my 650W at $89.99 vs. the regular $119.99/129.99 at some places. I do hate the cables for sure as they are flat and way too long for a ITX case in general.

I could do lots of things with the hadron with some very heavy modding, for which I have not the time to spare. I'd have to rivet out the HDD bay, throw away my ODD, take of the front and distance it a bit for some air for the psu etc. etc.

Do you know a PSU with shorter cables? the RM is modular, could buy some custom ones, but they are a little bit on the expensive side. Or do for example the Silverstone short cables fit on the RM?
Edited by Moondrake - 3/20/14 at 8:26am
Moon's Hadron
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Kingston HyperX 3K EVGA DVD-RW slim for Hadron  EVGA mITX CPU Cooler Win 7 Home Premium OEM 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Kingston HyperX 3K EVGA DVD-RW slim for Hadron  EVGA mITX CPU Cooler Win 7 Home Premium OEM 
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post #393 of 3052
Hello there!

I ve been reading this forum for a week now and following the posts in this thread for a very specific reason. rolleyes.gif

I already got some of the parts and I m waiting for the 250D case and my final decision re the graphics card, the processor and the ram.

So far, I ordered and waiting for
250D Corsair case
Be Quiet Silent Wings 2 PWM 80 mm to use it as a rear case exhaust fan (i will decide for a second one also if i need it)

So far I ordered and received the following:

ASUS Maximus VI Impact
H100i

Noctua NF A14 PWM to use it as an front case intake fan
Dell Ultrasharp U2414H (Its an IPS 1080p display)
Samsung EVO SSD 250GB
WD 1TB Caviar Blue


Still undecided about the CPU the amount of Ram, the GPU and the two 120mm fans that will replace the H100in noisy stock fans.
I would be gratefull if you could help me in the following:

1. a) if the H100i fans are from the inside sucking air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? Do we need high SP here or not?
b. If they are on the ouside of the H100i, throwing air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? I imagine that this is the opposite as in 1a) right? Do we need high SP here or not?
c. which fans as replacement do you suggest. Mind that my case is black and my mama red so i m interested in something between balck, red (even orange) or black/red.
d. Will there be enough space to mount a touch control fan controller on the bay instead of an optical drive?

2. My budget for CPU+GPU+RAM is around 680£ . Which of the following do you suggest and why?

a. i5 (165£) + 8GB RAM (65£) + 780 (400£) OR X9 290X (400£)
β. ι7 (235) + 16GB (130) + ASUS 770 (245) OR EVGA 770 (270) OR ASUS 280X (270)
c. i5 (165) + 16GB (130) + ASUS R9 290 (330)
d. Suggest any combination u may feel is best for my budget.

Please consider that I m going to play games on a 1080p and I will use my PC as an all around - not only gaming (maybe some rendering, photoshop etc)

3. Based on 2. and my components which fully modular ( i want to change to red cables in the future) PSU would u choose and why? I want a reliable one up to 80-100£. How many W should it be?



I know that I asked already too much and I apologise for that! Thats my first build and I want to be as 100% ready as I can!

Thanks!

*Once I order all the items I will upload pics!
Edited by GrWorkingClass - 3/20/14 at 10:57am
post #394 of 3052
I was originally going to get the Asus P8Z77-I but the price has jumped about 50 dollars for some reason. Has anyone tried a Gigabyte H77N, an EVGA Stinger, or an ASRock?

Thanks!
post #395 of 3052
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Originally Posted by ChrisHennigan View Post

I was originally going to get the Asus P8Z77-I but the price has jumped about 50 dollars for some reason. Has anyone tried a Gigabyte H77N, an EVGA Stinger, or an ASRock?

Thanks!

CedarPC has a few ranging from $95 to $140. They're all refurbished. I got mine from there as a New Open Box item and it works perfectly, included everything.
post #396 of 3052
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Originally Posted by GrWorkingClass View Post

Hello there!

I ve been reading this forum for a week now and following the posts in this thread for a very specific reason. rolleyes.gif

[...]
I know that I asked already too much and I apologise for that! Thats my first build and I want to be as 100% ready as I can!

Thanks!

*Once I order all the items I will upload pics!

770 or R9 280x really depends, both are closely matched and one or the other perform better in certain games, with the 280x performing better in 1440p
Be sure to check the width of the Asus DCUII so it fits the case.

As for the H100i fans, I've been reading a lot about it over the last days, and as you can read here (someone pointed that out in a reply to me), it's not really worth the money to put SP Quiets on them since at 1000rpm, they will have exactly the same noise level as they are both SP designs, only that the stock one's max undervoltage is 1000rpm.

Personally, i'll be testing stock @1000rpm and then look at temps before to decide if i'll lower the rpm with over fans. Was also looking at the NB! eLoops because of their design for static pressure, but I hear they make a lot of noise when combined to a rad...
Moon's Hadron
(17 items)
 
Moon's M13 250D
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4670k ASUS ROG Maximus VI Impact MSI R9 280X Twin FROZR Corsair Vengeance Low Profile (2x4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Kingston HyperX 3K EVGA DVD-RW slim for Hadron  EVGA mITX CPU Cooler Win 7 Home Premium OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Apple LED Cinema Display 27" Logitech G19 EVGA Hadron internal PSU (500W Gold) EVGA Hadron Air 
MouseAudioOtherOther
Logitech G602 Razer Tiamat 2.2 Kanex SnapX miniDP Switch Belkin Nostromo n52te 
Other
Microsoft adapter for 360 wireless controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 4670k Asus Maximus VI Impact MSI R9 280X Corsair Vengeance Low Profile (2x4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX 3K Corsair h100i Windows 7 Apple LED Cinema Display 27" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 Corsair RM650 Corsair 250D Logitech G602 
AudioOtherOther
Razer Tiamat 2.2 Kanex SnapX miniDP Switch Microsoft Wireless Controller adapter 
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Moon's Hadron
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Moon's M13 250D
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4670k ASUS ROG Maximus VI Impact MSI R9 280X Twin FROZR Corsair Vengeance Low Profile (2x4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Kingston HyperX 3K EVGA DVD-RW slim for Hadron  EVGA mITX CPU Cooler Win 7 Home Premium OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Apple LED Cinema Display 27" Logitech G19 EVGA Hadron internal PSU (500W Gold) EVGA Hadron Air 
MouseAudioOtherOther
Logitech G602 Razer Tiamat 2.2 Kanex SnapX miniDP Switch Belkin Nostromo n52te 
Other
Microsoft adapter for 360 wireless controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 4670k Asus Maximus VI Impact MSI R9 280X Corsair Vengeance Low Profile (2x4GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Kingston HyperX 3K Corsair h100i Windows 7 Apple LED Cinema Display 27" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 Corsair RM650 Corsair 250D Logitech G602 
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post #397 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Moondrake View Post

770 or R9 280x really depends, both are closely matched and one or the other perform better in certain games, with the 280x performing better in 1440p
Be sure to check the width of the Asus DCUII so it fits the case.

As for the H100i fans, I've been reading a lot about it over the last days, and as you can read here (someone pointed that out in a reply to me), it's not really worth the money to put SP Quiets on them since at 1000rpm, they will have exactly the same noise level as they are both SP designs, only that the stock one's max undervoltage is 1000rpm.

Personally, i'll be testing stock @1000rpm and then look at temps before to decide if i'll lower the rpm with over fans. Was also looking at the NB! eLoops because of their design for static pressure, but I hear they make a lot of noise when combined to a rad...


Thanks for your reply! Really appreciate it!

Do u by any chance know to reply to my question re the push/pull (plz see my initial post).
post #398 of 3052
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Originally Posted by GrWorkingClass View Post

1. a) if the H100i fans are from the inside sucking air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? Do we need high SP here or not?
b. If they are on the ouside of the H100i, throwing air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? I imagine that this is the opposite as in 1a) right? Do we need high SP here or not?

1a = Pull. Pulling air thru the rad.
1b = Push. Pushing air thru the rad.
post #399 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Hoffa View Post

1a = Pull. Pulling air thru the rad.
1b = Push. Pushing air thru the rad.


Thanks a lot!

Do we need Static Pressure in 1a when we pull air through radiator from outside to inside?

The way i think it, it seems that static pressure is needed when we push air to radiator not pulling.
post #400 of 3052
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Originally Posted by GrWorkingClass View Post

Hello there!

I ve been reading this forum for a week now and following the posts in this thread for a very specific reason. rolleyes.gif

I already got some of the parts and I m waiting for the 250D case and my final decision re the graphics card, the processor and the ram.

So far, I ordered and waiting for
250D Corsair case
Be Quiet Silent Wings 2 PWM 80 mm to use it as a rear case exhaust fan (i will decide for a second one also if i need it)

So far I ordered and received the following:

ASUS Maximus VI Impact
H100i

Noctua NF A14 PWM to use it as an front case intake fan
Dell Ultrasharp U2414H (Its an IPS 1080p display)
Samsung EVO SSD 250GB
WD 1TB Caviar Blue

First of all what i will have to say to you is that you will need to bring the h100i pipes from front to the cpu, what i mean that with vi impact you wont be able to mount h100i like here:
And you will need to turn by 180 degrees your cooler, this will cause pipes of h100i making you unable to put 140mm fan on front of the case and even if, pipes will be pushing towards it which means in longer run it might defect either the fan or h100i pipes. I know what im talking about because i tried to mount it that way and my stock 140mm fan didnt fitted in but oh well. good luck smile.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrWorkingClass View Post

Still undecided about the CPU the amount of Ram, the GPU and the two 120mm fans that will replace the H100in noisy stock fans.
I would be gratefull if you could help me in the following:

1. a) if the H100i fans are from the inside sucking air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? Do we need high SP here or not?
b. If they are on the ouside of the H100i, throwing air from outside to inside is this a pull or a push? I imagine that this is the opposite as in 1a) right? Do we need high SP here or not?
c. which fans as replacement do you suggest. Mind that my case is black and my mama red so i m interested in something between balck, red (even orange) or black/red.
d. Will there be enough space to mount a touch control fan controller on the bay instead of an optical drive?

2. My budget for CPU+GPU+RAM is around 680£ . Which of the following do you suggest and why?

a. i5 (165£) + 8GB RAM (65£) + 780 (400£) OR X9 290X (400£)
β. ι7 (235) + 16GB (130) + ASUS 770 (245) OR EVGA 770 (270) OR ASUS 280X (270)
c. i5 (165) + 16GB (130) + ASUS R9 290 (330)
d. Suggest any combination u may feel is best for my budget.

Please consider that I m going to play games on a 1080p and I will use my PC as an all around - not only gaming (maybe some rendering, photoshop etc)

3. Based on 2. and my components which fully modular ( i want to change to red cables in the future) PSU would u choose and why? I want a reliable one up to 80-100£. How many W should it be?



I know that I asked already too much and I apologise for that! Thats my first build and I want to be as 100% ready as I can!

Thanks!

*Once I order all the items I will upload pics!


1.
a)first of all it's best to mount them inside like on the video posted by me here, this way you will have a nice air income on heatsink smile.gif Second thing as stock fans might be noisy, you hardly will notice performance in cooling... What i mean is that i tested it very carefully with rpm to full stress temps and what i have to say is that there is no performance hit with higher rpms. If you will set your fans to lets say 1k rpm, that is then more than you actually need.
b) is also answered in A
c) keep with stock ones, the difference in AF is very minor for what you need to spend to get more.
d)yes there will be. i have h100i and gigabyte gtx 770 (by all means bloody big gpu and my optical drive slot fits in perfectly. On the other hand, you dont really need this controller as you can just connect 2 of the rear exhaust fans to the h100i and set their rpms in corsair link.

2.
the answer is A. You wont really feel the difference in games between i5 and i7 to be honest i have my i5 oced to 4,2k and i dont see difference from stock clocks. The other reason is that gtx770 isnt really a high end card. Why? I played metro LN on highs (not highest) and sometimes it was hitting 8-9 fps... seriously.

3. this i wont really answer.
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