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post #401 of 3056
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Originally Posted by Torvi View Post

First of all what i will have to say to you is that you will need to bring the h100i pipes from front to the cpu, what i mean that with vi impact you wont be able to mount h100i like here:
And you will need to turn by 180 degrees your cooler, this will cause pipes of h100i making you unable to put 140mm fan on front of the case and even if, pipes will be pushing towards it which means in longer run it might defect either the fan or h100i pipes. I know what im talking about because i tried to mount it that way and my stock 140mm fan didnt fitted in but oh well. good luck smile.gif
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a)first of all it's best to mount them inside like on the video posted by me here, this way you will have a nice air income on heatsink smile.gif Second thing as stock fans might be noisy, you hardly will notice performance in cooling... What i mean is that i tested it very carefully with rpm to full stress temps and what i have to say is that there is no performance hit with higher rpms. If you will set your fans to lets say 1k rpm, that is then more than you actually need.
b) is also answered in A
c) keep with stock ones, the difference in AF is very minor for what you need to spend to get more.
d)yes there will be. i have h100i and gigabyte gtx 770 (by all means bloody big gpu and my optical drive slot fits in perfectly. On the other hand, you dont really need this controller as you can just connect 2 of the rear exhaust fans to the h100i and set their rpms in corsair link.

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the answer is A. You wont really feel the difference in games between i5 and i7 to be honest i have my i5 oced to 4,2k and i dont see difference from stock clocks. The other reason is that gtx770 isnt really a high end card. Why? I played metro LN on highs (not highest) and sometimes it was hitting 8-9 fps... seriously.

3. this i wont really answer.



thanks for your reply!

hmmm, i think i lost u

Do u propose the fans to look outside and the radiator inside (like in the vid) or the fans looking inside and the radiator outside?
post #402 of 3056
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i have my h100i mounted the same way as on tutorial smile.gif
post #403 of 3056
Just started my initial assembly after stripping the case down to the basics. Top and side panels off, PSU clip and drive bay cover off, both stock fans removed, ODD tray removed.

My first observation is that IRL, this case is a little smaller than I imagined it from pictures seen online. That's neither good nor bad, just that I was expecting it to be slightly larger than it is. Makes it a bit more challenging stuffing everything in there, but I know I'll be happy with the smaller footprint once done.

So, I thought I'd share some of my build experience for anyone else who is just getting started. Hopefully someone will find it helpful.

First step was to install the drives. I am going with 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs so the bays are full. A couple of suggestions for anyone just starting out with building their 250D:
  1. Drive Caddies - if installing a HDD in the 3.5" caddies, I was worried about snapping them trying to flex them around the drive with all the tool-less pins in the caddy. What I found worked best was leave the pins in the caddy on one side and pop out the pins (rubber mounts) on the other side. Then you can slide the drive onto the two pins still installed in the caddy and place the two pins you removed into the mounting holes on the opposite side of the drive, then flex the caddy slightly to allow the two rubber nubs to pop back into the holes in the caddy. You don't have to flex the caddies nearly as much this way and may save you breaking the caddy.
  2. Tight Spaces - As others have mentioned, it's a bit tough getting to the SATA connectors with the 2.5" caddies once installed. Save yourself the hassle and plug your SATA cables onto the drive(s) while you have the caddies out and then feed the cables back thru the bay when you go to insert the caddies.

With the drives in and SATA cables installed, I moved on to the Power Supply. Having already removed the stock fans made it a bit easier to pull and route cables. I opted to go with the Corsair HX650 which is a semi-modular PSU. I would agree with others that you want at least a semi-modular if not a full modular PSU with this case. Laying out my wire routing, I think I'll be able to tuck everything away pretty neatly once everything else starts to go in, but if I had it to do over, I might have opted for a full modular PSU and some shorter cables.

Now waiting for the mailman to deliver my fans so I can finish installing everything.
post #404 of 3056
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Originally Posted by Moondrake View Post

Think will try stock and replace them if I'm not satisfied. atm I never hear my GPU at full load, I sometimes enable full speed on it just to check if it's even running. I'm sure it'll be another thing with the gpu sitting right to an intake. Thanks for the heads up

RMs are fully modular
I could do lots of things with the hadron with some very heavy modding, for which I have not the time to spare. I'd have to rivet out the HDD bay, throw away my ODD, take of the front and distance it a bit for some air for the psu etc. etc.

Do you know a PSU with shorter cables? the RM is modular, could buy some custom ones, but they are a little bit on the expensive side. Or do for example the Silverstone short cables fit on the RM?

Silverstone has the shorter cables, I don't think anyone else makes a short cable kit. Your only other option is to order some custom short sleeved cables from somewhere for the RM.

I saw someone do some interesting mods to the Hadron here on OCN.
post #405 of 3056
I am going to get the ASUS Maximux impact MB. CAn I know if the ASUS R9 270X DirectCU II TOP Graphics Card able to fit into the 250D?
post #406 of 3056
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Originally Posted by johnc79 View Post

I am going to get the ASUS Maximux impact MB. CAn I know if the ASUS R9 270X DirectCU II TOP Graphics Card able to fit into the 250D?
The Impact fits not problem. I'm not sure about the Asus GPU tho. I know some DirectCu have the heatpipe getting close or touching the top.
post #407 of 3056
could not find anything on the web. Hope someone can provide some advice here before i go ahead and get one.
post #408 of 3056
Looking for input on fan placement for an air-cooled 250D. I have replaced the front fan with a 200mm Cooler Master and have two 120mm x 25mm and two 80mm x 15mm NoiseBlocker PWM fans arriving tomorrow. Graphics card not installed yet and some final cable management to do, but the picture below is about where I'm at.

I'm thinking either going the negative pressure route and have both side fans and both rear fans extracting air from the case with just the front fan and GPU providing intake. The other thought was to flip the front side fan (as shown below) to add some additional intake volume. My only concern is that the side intake will disturb the airflow coming thru the front fan and may have a negative affect on airflow thru the CPU cooler. The last option would be both side coolers as intake with the two rear fans for exhaust. Any thoughts?

I'm not sure I really need the rear exhaust fans given that my CPU cooler is pushing air towards the rear vents, but thought some thin 80mm fans on the rear might help with heat extraction under load.



For reference, that's a Zalman CNPS9500AT cooler on a MSI Z87i Gaming MB. The socket placement on the MSI board isn't ideal for PCI-E slot clearance with most CPU coolers, but this cooler fits....just barely....leaving a few mm's clearance between the graphics card and also plenty of clearance for the DIMM slots. For some added peace of mind, I installed a backplate on my EVGA graphics card. I'll try and post some better pics once everything is together.
post #409 of 3056
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Originally Posted by Hoffa View Post

Looking for input on fan placement for an air-cooled 250D. I have replaced the front fan with a 200mm Cooler Master and have two 120mm x 25mm and two 80mm x 15mm NoiseBlocker PWM fans arriving tomorrow. Graphics card not installed yet and some final cable management to do, but the picture below is about where I'm at.

I'm thinking either going the negative pressure route and have both side fans and both rear fans extracting air from the case with just the front fan and GPU providing intake. The other thought was to flip the front side fan (as shown below) to add some additional intake volume. My only concern is that the side intake will disturb the airflow coming thru the front fan and may have a negative affect on airflow thru the CPU cooler. The last option would be both side coolers as intake with the two rear fans for exhaust. Any thoughts?

I'm not sure I really need the rear exhaust fans given that my CPU cooler is pushing air towards the rear vents, but thought some thin 80mm fans on the rear might help with heat extraction under load.



For reference, that's a Zalman CNPS9500AT cooler on a MSI Z87i Gaming MB. The socket placement on the MSI board isn't ideal for PCI-E slot clearance with most CPU coolers, but this cooler fits....just barely....leaving a few mm's clearance between the graphics card and also plenty of clearance for the DIMM slots. For some added peace of mind, I installed a backplate on my EVGA graphics card. I'll try and post some better pics once everything is together.

For the cooler you have, try it with both 120 as intake as well as the 200, with the 80s as exhaust. I have been fiddling with mine and find that that gives me the best temps. I have my 120s just above idle and the 200 at max rpm (same Cooler master fan as you - wired directly to molex to keep a fan header open). I then have a single 80mm exhaust running around 1500rpm (quiet for the fan I got). This gives me a slight positive pressure, but not so much that the gpu can't pull air from the side panel (tested using the tissue paper method thumb.gif).

Is the card you got reference? That will make a difference in how much heat you are trying to get rid of.

This is what my setup is like (not my picture), but with a reference gpu, so it pulls cool air in and dumps the hot out the back).

It's so little!
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4670k Asrock Z87E Asus r9 280x samsung 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
samsung 840 samsung  Thermaltake water 3.0 win7 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
viewsonic 27" Cooler master qfr cooler master 700 corsair 250d 
MouseMouse PadAudio
anker vertical ocz sony 5.25" bookshelfs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
960t M4A89GTD-proUSB3 pny 660Ti samsung wonder ram 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung F3 Samsung 840 250GB LG external DVD/R 212 evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 ViewSonic ViewSonic VX2739wm model m Cooler Master Silent Pro 700 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li A05FNB (flipped to A05NB) Razer Deathadder Black edt. OCZ behemoth Audio Technica ATH-AD500 
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Hey guys my 250D build was halted do to the EVGA GTX 780 Classified card not fitting.. The 2 x 8-pin PCI Express will hit the roof and not close as well as not being able to go use my Hydro water block.
It sucks because I went through all kinds of measurements for the case to make sure everything fits and even seeing the Corsair R9 290X build and they were able to fit everything. And not to mention that I spent money buying 2 radiators just for this case. So anyone running a large tall cards watch out for the height of the card because it may sit flush with the case but connecting the PCI cables it will not...
    
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Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
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