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You're better off having all rad fans as intake. The whole convection thing is easily overcome by the fans. Simply put an exhaust fan in and you will be fine. Here is how I did mine with all rad fans as intakes (I have a fan box outside the case for my exhaust fan now)


Yeah I'm keeping all radiator fans on intake, also for some reason I still have room to fit my GT AP-15 as an exhaust fan inside the case so that's real nice, I have 2 GT-15's between the top Alphacool 240 ST-30 radiator and the case and everything fit's perfectly, because personally I am not a fan of the 36mm extended top for the S3 I think it kills the aesthetics and I want to keep everything as small as possible smile.gif
    
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The build is looking really sweet! thumb.gif How do you like the Trident RAM? Thinking about it for an upcoming build...
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The build is looking really sweet! thumb.gif How do you like the Trident RAM? Thinking about it for an upcoming build...

I like it very much but I didn't have time to test it properly I just set the timings and voltages and ran some Aida64 and MaxMem2 it felt really snappy in my system, Price performance wise it's very nice priced RAM less expensive then the Corsair kits which I had previously, I had a set of 4x 2GB Dominator DDR3-1600 CL7 8 7 20 so upgraded to this 16GB kit now.
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Sleeved some 3 pin splitters again which came pre sleeved but it was terrible done, so I redid it with MDPC-X Sleeve Small - Black.

The heatshrink was way to long and the sleeving was half underneath it and you could still see some cables, Top is pre sleeved bottom is after sleeving myself.




    
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Pretty neat looking! I don't tend to care for soft tubing much anymore but this is an exception. I had white tubing with gold Monsoon fittings in a build I just tore down and that was one of the soft tubing configs that I liked quite a bit but this with the flat black tubing and flat black almost "aged" looking fittings with the flat black case and the contrasting copper looks really cool. Looks very industrial and utilitarian to me. I think some shiny copper fittings would look really cool too, but the current fittings look great as well. However, are you not using any kind of res? Sorry if I missed something. I think some copper-ish (or burnt orange or something like that from Lutr0 or MDPC) plus maybe black and/or grey sleeving scheme and something in the reservoir would really complete it and make it pop. I'm sure you already have plans, I'm just throwing my opinion out there. Mayhems may actually have some sort of copper coolant, especially in Aurora 2 which can get those metallic colors, and if not you could always do black or like a sparkle black Aurora 2 or something. Or introduce white into the mix in a few places (such as black/white/copper sleeving and white coolant). I really like the all blacked out theme with the shiny copper contrast, I just feel like it might be a little too subtle and could really look exceptional with some other accents. But I'm sure you already have plans and again, I'm just throwing my thoughts out there. Kind of day dreaming about what i might do with that rig if it were mine. Either way, I can't wait to see what you do with it!

Edit: Just saw that you already have sleeving plans.
Edited by ADragg - 3/9/14 at 3:08am
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Digging the progress. few comments/suggestions/questions:

Fans on the top radiator facing the wrong way (shouldn't they blow outward?)
I would turn the PSU to draw fresh air from the bottom. (I have the same, it's a single 12V rail design and it can get pretty warm under load)
Those are not the final fittings? (nickel instead of matte black?)

hopefully the last few parts will arrive soon smile.gif
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Hey, about the fans, I think this is the best way no? To directly feed cold air outside of the case in.
You mean flip the PSU so the fan would be on the bottom? (Edit, I investigated the matter and am going to keep it this way, mainly because my PSU cables would get in the way of the reservoir, and it won't matter much how the PSU is orientated thnx for the advice though)
And yes those matte black fittings are final, i've always went with matte black don't know where you got the nickel from? smile.gif
Srry was asleep now I know what you mean the Fittings look like Nickel because of the bad pictures with flash but they are Matte Black, I will make good pictures in daylight once everything is finished.

I agree that if possible the power supply should face down as it's meant to exhaust out the bottom instead of blowing hot air right at the back of the motherboard. If you've ever put your hand on the back of your motherboard while it's running, you know that the mobo itself can actually get quite warm and I would worry about it if your PSU runs warm at all. If it does, I would think that would pretty easily effect the overall temps of your CPU, RAM and maybe chipset, etc.

However, I think fans as intake is almost always better, especially in a case like this that has plenty of venting for passive exhaust. There are several schools of thought on this, but I am definitely in the group who thinks you should have almost all of your fans as intakes and maybe one exhaust fan in the rear. That way you're passing fresh air through the rad and into the case and you're producing as much positive pressure as possible so that overall the air inside the case is cooler and constantly moving which is going to help with overall case temps and also helps a lot with these dust prone Caselabs cases. The more positive pressure, the less dust that will stay inside the case. Positive pressure is also going to do all of the exhaust work for you. Air comes in from all directions and is automatically forced through all that rear venting so there's constantly new and fresh air being brought in and pushed out, so case temps should be considerably lower. It's a bit difficult to explain well but you can have one fan or even zero fans on a well rear vented case like this and have plenty of passive exhaust.

In my S5, I have 8 intakes and no exhausts and the temps are very good and the ambient case temp is great as well, plus there's a lot less dust build up than there would be otherwise. I'm probably going to throw an exhaust fan on there since I do have room but I don't expect it will make a difference in the temps at all. Exhaust fans aren't really going to create turbulence within the case and actually "suck" air out of the case like you might think. Not nearly to the extend that an intake fan will generate movement. It's mostly just going to facilitate the escaping of air that makes it's way near the fan and it's not going to work as well unless you already have enough intakes to create positive pressure. All or almost all fans as intakes creates a lot more movement and forces the air to escape wherever it can, so it floods out of that back venting.
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Pretty neat looking! I don't tend to care for soft tubing much anymore but this is an exception. I had white tubing with gold Monsoon fittings in a build I just tore down and that was one of the soft tubing configs that I liked quite a bit but this with the flat black tubing and flat black almost "aged" looking fittings with the flat black case and the contrasting copper looks really cool. Looks very industrial and utilitarian to me. I think some shiny copper fittings would look really cool too, but the current fittings look great as well. However, are you not using any kind of res? Sorry if I missed something. I think some copper-ish (or burnt orange or something like that from Lutr0 or MDPC) plus maybe black and/or grey sleeving scheme and something in the reservoir would really complete it and make it pop. I'm sure you already have plans, I'm just throwing my opinion out there. Mayhems may actually have some sort of copper coolant, especially in Aurora 2 which can get those metallic colors, and if not you could always do black or like a sparkle black Aurora 2 or something. Or introduce white into the mix in a few places (such as black/white/copper sleeving and white coolant). I really like the all blacked out theme with the shiny copper contrast, I just feel like it might be a little too subtle and could really look exceptional with some other accents. But I'm sure you already have plans and again, I'm just throwing my thoughts out there. Kind of day dreaming about what i might do with that rig if it were mine. Either way, I can't wait to see what you do with it!

Edit: Just saw that you already have sleeving plans.

Thnx man, I wanted to use some copper fittings on the RAM block EK has some very nice copper fittings but they don't sell them and only use them internally mad.gif
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These would have looked stellar in my build.
I know Alphacool sells some copper fittings but I rather use an excellent brand like bitspower.

My reservoir is on back order and I think it's going to take a while before it will be delivered, it's a combination of different components:
Bitspower D5 Mod Kit (Matte Black) - Mod Kit
Bitspower D5 Mod Top v2 (POM) - Pump Top
Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 150 (Black POM Cap) - Reservoir
Bitspower Z-CAP II With G1/4" x3 POM Version - Z-Cap
Bitspower G1/4 Matt Black Aqua-Pipe I BP-MBWP-C - Aqua Pipe

And look likes this.


Initially I will use the corsair sleeved cables, but I will probably sleeve and custom make my own cables the right length to really complete the build, that would be the final touch.

I have Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 and some Mayhems blue dye, I am going to use only the H20 first and see how it looks, maybe I will then put in the blue dye, it would only be visible in the reservoir, I don't want to use pastel because of staining and maybe a degree hotter water temperature, Aurora is very nice but you can only use it for very short amount of time and you need to refresh it to quick. I opted for blue dye now because my fan controller output on the front is blue and also the power on switch.

What would be the nicest looking color dye I should use be?, you guys tell me, I'm open for suggestions.
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I agree that if possible the power supply should face down as it's meant to exhaust out the bottom instead of blowing hot air right at the back of the motherboard.

Just a little correction: The PSU exhausts through the back and draws from where the fan is mounted.

I apologize for that Input Iniura, obviously it seems to be wrong in this scenario. I just follow the rules of working with convection and using positive pressure and it seemed counter intuitive to me to blow down from the top of a radiator.

thats a beautiful build longroadtrip. Cant blame you for cheating on the prodigy with that super sexy case wink.gif

Colour wise I can suggest just a little bit of Mayhems Deep red as it gives you a sort of whiskey/copperish color. Here are some older pictures of my personal rig before I added additional dye as I wanted a more intense red. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Thnx man, I wanted to use some copper fittings on the RAM block EK has some very nice copper fittings but they don't sell them and only use them internally mad.gif
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These would have looked stellar in my build.
I know Alphacool sells some copper fittings but I rather use an excellent brand like bitspower.

My reservoir is on back order and I think it's going to take a while before it will be delivered, it's a combination of different components:
Bitspower D5 Mod Kit (Matte Black) - Mod Kit
Bitspower D5 Mod Top v2 (POM) - Pump Top
Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 150 (Black POM Cap) - Reservoir
Bitspower Z-CAP II With G1/4" x3 POM Version - Z-Cap
Bitspower G1/4 Matt Black Aqua-Pipe I BP-MBWP-C - Aqua Pipe

And look likes this.


Initially I will use the corsair sleeved cables, but I will probably sleeve and custom make my own cables the right length to really complete the build, that would be the final touch.

I have Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 and some Mayhems blue dye, I am going to use only the H20 first and see how it looks, maybe I will then put in the blue dye, it would only be visible in the reservoir, I don't want to use pastel because of staining and maybe a degree hotter water temperature, Aurora is very nice but you can only use it for very short amount of time and you need to refresh it to quick. I opted for blue dye now because my fan controller output on the front is blue and also the power on switch.

What would be the nicest looking color dye I should use be?, you guys tell me, I'm open for suggestions.

Those EK would have been nice. Monsoon has some great copper fittings too, and they're shiny/polished so they would contrast all of the matt black really cool. I've never used anything but Bitspower and Monsoon and they are very high quality. I agree that quality wise, nothing really compares to Bitspower, but Monsoon is the exception in my opinion. I used the gold ones with white tubing and the finish is great, as well as the function. They are plated very well and after many uses with the metal tool, they don't chip or scratch or anything. I think they may call their copper "orange", but they're really more of a copper and I think they just call it that because they figure people will be more likely to want to do an orange build than a copper build.

That will be a nice res setup. I may have to get the EK equivalent, but it's $70 for the setup, and yet I already have all of the components except for the bottom piece that acts as the pump top that the res screws directly into. So it's basically $70 just for the pump top that will allow me to direct mount my pump under my res. We'll see, though.

I would definitely do some sleeving. I recommend MDPC but I think Lutr0 might be just as good. MDPC has a color or two that would easily match and tie in with copper. You could use some of that "copper orange" sleeving, some blue sleeving to match your coolant, and maybe some black and/or their graphite/titanium color that would go nice with matte black. Just come ideas.

I didn't think most of the pastel colors were prone to staining? That's what I heard in the Mayhems thread, at least in reference to Pastel Blueberry. I used the Blueberry for at least 3-4 months before draining it recently and after flushing there wasn't even a hint of it on any of the acrylic in my system. Clear as day one. Also, Aurora 2 has been released and was redesigned to last a lot longer. I think in simpler/smaller builds like ours with tube res's it is supposed to last a good long time now. I know you already have your H20 and dye, just sayin'.
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The attention to detail by caselabs is amazing. I thought it'd be neglected but these sort of minor adjustments+listening to customer feedback is what sets them apart from the "assembly line" case builders.

Lovely progress pics mate!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q9550 Asus Rampage Extreme X48 XFX AMD 6870 Black Edition 1GB DDR5 Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 996982 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD 320GB Blue OS WD 500GB Green Raid 0 WD 500GB Blue Lite-on DVD RW 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Lite-on DVD RW Aquacomputer AMS 360 D5 copper w/ vertical res ... XSPC Raystorm Copper Watercool Heatkiller NSB 3.0 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill LRT white - 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD DangerDen Perfect Seal 1/2" barbs Swiftech Radbox 3x Scythe GT AP-15's in push 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Samsung P2350 Microsoft x6 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Thermaltake Spedo w/ white LED mod Microsoft x8 Razer Goliathus SupremeFX X-Fi+ I-Trigue L3800 
Other
Lamptron FC-5 v2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4770K EVGA Z87 Stinger w/ killer 1202 adapter GTX hydrocopper Mushkin Blackline Ridgeback 997073 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial M4 256GB Western Digital 2TB notebook 240mm XSPC EX radiator 120mm XSPC EX radiator 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Nexxos XP3 Plexi v2 Edition Swiftech MCP35X Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8"ID x5/8"OD Elegant ... 3x 120mm Swiftech Helix 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 x64 ultimate Dual 24" monitors in P-P Corsair K95 Silverstone ST45SF-G 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Compact Splash 039 Razer Official SWTOR MMO mouse Razer Sphex "Serious Gaming" edition Cambridge Soundworks FPS-1000 
AudioOther
Supreme X-Fi software mod on SoundCore3D Razer Onza Tournament Edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800K Asrock FM2A85X-ITX HD8670D OCZ Intel XMP edition 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 series 256GB Western Digital 2.5" 2TB Swiftech H220 XSPC EX120 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8" 5/8" Limited Editi... 3x GT AP-15 in push Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Dual 24" in portrait mode 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G105 MW3 edition ST45SF-G Compact Splash 040 Logitech G9X MW3 edition 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steelseries QCK+ black ALC892 w/ THX TruStudio NETGEAR WNA3100-100NAR 
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Rig 1
(25 items)
 
Mini-J
(22 items)
 
Mini-Modworkx
(19 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q9550 Asus Rampage Extreme X48 XFX AMD 6870 Black Edition 1GB DDR5 Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 996982 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD 320GB Blue OS WD 500GB Green Raid 0 WD 500GB Blue Lite-on DVD RW 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Lite-on DVD RW Aquacomputer AMS 360 D5 copper w/ vertical res ... XSPC Raystorm Copper Watercool Heatkiller NSB 3.0 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill LRT white - 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD DangerDen Perfect Seal 1/2" barbs Swiftech Radbox 3x Scythe GT AP-15's in push 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Samsung P2350 Microsoft x6 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Thermaltake Spedo w/ white LED mod Microsoft x8 Razer Goliathus SupremeFX X-Fi+ I-Trigue L3800 
Other
Lamptron FC-5 v2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4770K EVGA Z87 Stinger w/ killer 1202 adapter GTX hydrocopper Mushkin Blackline Ridgeback 997073 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial M4 256GB Western Digital 2TB notebook 240mm XSPC EX radiator 120mm XSPC EX radiator 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Nexxos XP3 Plexi v2 Edition Swiftech MCP35X Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8"ID x5/8"OD Elegant ... 3x 120mm Swiftech Helix 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 x64 ultimate Dual 24" monitors in P-P Corsair K95 Silverstone ST45SF-G 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Compact Splash 039 Razer Official SWTOR MMO mouse Razer Sphex "Serious Gaming" edition Cambridge Soundworks FPS-1000 
AudioOther
Supreme X-Fi software mod on SoundCore3D Razer Onza Tournament Edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800K Asrock FM2A85X-ITX HD8670D OCZ Intel XMP edition 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 series 256GB Western Digital 2.5" 2TB Swiftech H220 XSPC EX120 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8" 5/8" Limited Editi... 3x GT AP-15 in push Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Dual 24" in portrait mode 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G105 MW3 edition ST45SF-G Compact Splash 040 Logitech G9X MW3 edition 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steelseries QCK+ black ALC892 w/ THX TruStudio NETGEAR WNA3100-100NAR 
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