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The attention to detail by caselabs is amazing. I thought it'd be neglected but these sort of minor adjustments+listening to customer feedback is what sets them apart from the "assembly line" case builders.

I agree, the customer focus by CaseLabs definitely sets them apart from other case manufacturers. I have an S3 and I was pleasantly surprised by two silent revisions they have made: the motherboard sagging fix, and fan cable cutouts added to the 120.2 drop-in mount.

Great job so far OP. Very clean build. thumb.gif Love those black AP-15s!

I have a very similar setup to yours in my S3. The main difference is that my top reservoir is an XT45, and I am using the 36mm ext cover. I am using the exact same Bitspower D5 mod top reservoir combo that you have ordered (even down to the add-ons of the 3x top cover and the aqua pipe). I will warn you that there will be very little room between the top of the reservoir and the radiator above it. I am not sure you will be able to fit a 90-degree fitting on top of that reservoir without it hitting the radiator. If you can, it will be an extremely tight fit. It definitely wouldn't fit in my case with the XT45 radiator, so I had to buy the 36mm top cover for the extra clearance. I can take a pic of my setup if you would like.

Another friendly warning is that the floor of your case will become very cramped with the pump/res assembly, the front radiator, and the PSU cables all trying to exist in the same space. A difficult but not impossible challenge. I recently just ordered myself the S3 pedestal so that I can move the radiators down there and make the internal space much less cramped overall. smile.gif
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I agree, the customer focus by CaseLabs definitely sets them apart from other case manufacturers. I have an S3 and I was pleasantly surprised by two silent revisions they have made: the motherboard sagging fix, and fan cable cutouts added to the 120.2 drop-in mount.

Great job so far OP. Very clean build. thumb.gif Love those black AP-15s!

I have a very similar setup to yours in my S3. The main difference is that my top reservoir is an XT45, and I am using the 36mm ext cover. I am using the exact same Bitspower D5 mod top reservoir combo that you have ordered (even down to the add-ons of the 3x top cover and the aqua pipe). I will warn you that there will be very little room between the top of the reservoir and the radiator above it. I am not sure you will be able to fit a 90-degree fitting on top of that reservoir without it hitting the radiator. If you can, it will be an extremely tight fit. It definitely wouldn't fit in my case with the XT45 radiator, so I had to buy the 36mm top cover for the extra clearance. I can take a pic of my setup if you would like.

Another friendly warning is that the floor of your case will become very cramped with the pump/res assembly, the front radiator, and the PSU cables all trying to exist in the same space. A difficult but not impossible challenge. I recently just ordered myself the S3 pedestal so that I can move the radiators down there and make the internal space much less cramped overall. smile.gif


Thank you for the suggestions and following my build guys.

Yes for the silent revisions they also changed the connectors of the power and reset switch to smaller black ones, I can remember that by some builds like Longroadtrip's S3 the connectors where bigger and transparant (you could see through them) I love my Caselabs S3 and the attention to detail they ship with.

Thank you for the warning that there is very little room to fit a fitting on top of my reservoir, I am not going to use a fitting on top, I am going to use the in and out port on the side which you can't see(in the middle of the case).

Yeah post some pictures of your build, I really like looking at other people's build and I really don't care if someone posts a picture of his build in my buildlog.

That's what I am a little worried about yes about the minimal space on the floor to fit all the cables, fittings and pump/reservoir, that's also one of the main reasons I am not going to flip my PSU with the fan side down for the moment, because the cables would intervene to much with the reservoir I think, If I would make custom sleeved cables with the proper length size that would already make my life a lot easier I think.

I will figure it all out how I am going to fit everything once I receive my reservoir.
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Here are some not-so-professional pics of my S3 build. biggrin.gif
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^ I put the PSU fan-side-down so I could hide cables above it. Custom sleeving my own cables will have to happen at some point because these huge cables take up WAY too much space.


^ A very happy moment in my build occured when I discovered my temperature sensor display frame just fit around the top of the front radiator.


^ I'm not much for case modding but I wanted a fill port for this build.


^ It's getting cramped down there!


^ This is as neat as I could get the floor space. Everything fits but it is very cramped. Not enough room to get any fingers behind the pump.


^ Less than an inch between the top fittings and the radiator. The fill port was definitely needed because it would be impossible to access those Z-cap ports otherwise.


^ Fill port assembly.


^ The mostly-finished interior during leak testing.


^ I use a Lian-Li PCI fan controller to control the four AP-15s. It's great, except it's not very secure being held in by only one screw.


^ The finished facade! The gray rectangle surrounding the fans is a Demcifilter mounted internally. I had to have dust filters, but did not want them externally mounted. This was the best thing I could think of and I have mixed feelings about it looks. Otherwise I am very happy with the exterior.

I'm going to be overhauling my build as soon as this weekend. I'll be adding a pedestal and casters, moving the radiators into the pedestal, and putting a window panel on the roof. I'm also replacing the Demcifilters with ModRight aluminum filters. The tinkering never ends!

I think you are right that custom sleeved cables would definitely help with the space issue for both of us. I'll get around to doing that some day...

Good luck in the rest of your build. thumb.gif
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Here are some not-so-professional pics of my S3 build. biggrin.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

^ I put the PSU fan-side-down so I could hide cables above it. Custom sleeving my own cables will have to happen at some point because these huge cables take up WAY too much space.


^ A very happy moment in my build occured when I discovered my temperature sensor display frame just fit around the top of the front radiator.


^ I'm not much for case modding but I wanted a fill port for this build.


^ It's getting cramped down there!


^ This is as neat as I could get the floor space. Everything fits but it is very cramped. Not enough room to get any fingers behind the pump.


^ Less than an inch between the top fittings and the radiator. The fill port was definitely needed because it would be impossible to access those Z-cap ports otherwise.


^ Fill port assembly.


^ The mostly-finished interior during leak testing.


^ I use a Lian-Li PCI fan controller to control the four AP-15s. It's great, except it's not very secure being held in by only one screw.


^ The finished facade! The gray rectangle surrounding the fans is a Demcifilter mounted internally. I had to have dust filters, but did not want them externally mounted. This was the best thing I could think of and I have mixed feelings about it looks. Otherwise I am very happy with the exterior.

I'm going to be overhauling my build as soon as this weekend. I'll be adding a pedestal and casters, moving the radiators into the pedestal, and putting a window panel on the roof. I'm also replacing the Demcifilters with ModRight aluminum filters. The tinkering never ends!

I think you are right that custom sleeved cables would definitely help with the space issue for both of us. I'll get around to doing that some day...

Good luck in the rest of your build. thumb.gif

Great photo's man I enjoyed watching how you did all of that, I am going to fill my reservoir with a funnel instead of a fillport. EDIT: Didn't meant a funnel I mean this Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Why is the Lian-Li PCI fan controller only attached with 1 screw?, You are aware of the existence of the Flex-Bay 5.25 Device mount - Short Nonconforming for the S3?

What for an GPU, and CPU do you have? At what speed do you run your GT-AP 15's and what is your delta, Idle, and load temperature?

Great picture of that front Demciflex filter I was planning the exact same and didn't know how it would look. I have a lot of ventilations in my S3 and the dust build up was pretty big after only running it for 1 week on air, I am also planning on getting Demciflex filters for my S3, they sell a kit for the S3 on their site, I would only need to let them make some custom ones for the ventilations under my windows on both sides of the doors, because they don't exist yet.

Can you tell my more about the ModRight aluminum filters where do you get them do you have a link? I don't know them and why are you changing to those filters? Do they also magnetically attach to your case? And what is better or different then the Demciflex ones?
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Great photo's man I enjoyed watching how you did all of that, I am going to fill my reservoir with a funnel instead of a fillport. EDIT: Didn't meant a funnel I mean this Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Why is the Lian-Li PCI fan controller only attached with 1 screw?, You are aware of the existence of the Flex-Bay 5.25 Device mount - Short Nonconforming for the S3?

What for an GPU, and CPU do you have? At what speed do you run your GT-AP 15's and what is your delta, Idle, and load temperature?

Great picture of that front Demciflex filter I was planning the exact same and didn't know how it would look. I have a lot of ventilations in my S3 and the dust build up was pretty big after only running it for 1 week on air, I am also planning on getting Demciflex filters for my S3, they sell a kit for the S3 on their site, I would only need to let them make some custom ones for the ventilations under my windows on both sides of the doors, because they don't exist yet.

Can you tell my more about the ModRight aluminum filters where do you get them do you have a link? I don't know them and why are you changing to those filters? Do they also magnetically attach to your case? And what is better or different then the Demciflex ones?

That filling thing should work well. I use a big 100mL syringe with my fillport because the water backs up very easily and I have to fill it slowly. My new build won't have a fill port anymore because I am removing the drop-in mount.

The Lian-Li fan controller is attached with 1 screw because it fits in the PCI bracket next to the GPU. That's just how it is. I think you are confusing it with my temp display in the 5.25 Flex bay, which is held in properly with 4 screws.

I have a 4770K and GTX 780 Ti. Both are stock speeds right now, I haven't overclocked this build yet though I probably will at some point. The CPU is not de-lidded, I am not sure if I will ever attempt that. I run the AP-15s at probably about 1000 RPM, I am not sure of the exact speed because I have no RPM readout but they are very quiet. My temperature results were as follows: Ambient 20C, CPU 64C (30 min Prime95), GPU 44C (30 min Unigine Valley).

Here is a link to the ModRight filters I bought. They bolt directly to the fan and have little screws so you can remove the filter from the fan. No magnets. Maybe less convenient but I liked how they looked so I'm giving them a try. I didn't like how the Demcifilters make the dust circles appear right against the case panel. I figure if the filters are attached to the fans and not the case, the dust circles might be less noticeable.

A few more pics, these are how I have my Demcifilters currently mounted in the case:
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^ Top cover filter. Note that I had to cut a chunk of the filter frame off in the top right corner because one of the posts was in the way.


^ PSU filter.


^ Flex-bay filter, inside.


^ Flex-bay filter, outside. If you were wondering, the adhesive that is exposed remains sticky for a couple weeks and will attract bits of dust and debris. smile.gif


^ Dust circles in the top panel filter. Doesn't look horrible, but I'm going to try the ModRight filters just to see how it looks with them.

Edited by jhaze84 - 3/14/14 at 6:41am
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That filling thing should work well. I use a big 100mL syringe with my fillport because the water backs up very easily and I have to fill it slowly. My new build won't have a fill port anymore because I am removing the drop-in mount.

The Lian-Li fan controller is attached with 1 screw because it fits in the PCI bracket next to the GPU. That's just how it is. I think you are confusing it with my temp display in the 5.25 Flex bay, which is held in properly with 4 screws.

I have a 4770K and GTX 780 Ti. Both are stock speeds right now, I haven't overclocked this build yet though I probably will at some point. The CPU is not de-lidded, I am not sure if I will ever attempt that. I run the AP-15s at probably about 1000 RPM, I am not sure of the exact speed because I have no RPM readout but they are very quiet. My temperature results were as follows: Ambient 20C, CPU 64C (30 min Prime95), GPU 44C (30 min Unigine Valley).

Here is a link to the ModRight filters I bought. They bolt directly to the fan and have little screws so you can remove the filter from the fan. No magnets. Maybe less convenient but I liked how they looked so I'm giving them a try. I didn't like how the Demcifilters make the dust circles appear right against the case panel. I figure if the filters are attached to the fans and not the case, the dust circles might be less noticeable.

A few more pics, these are how I have my Demcifilters currently mounted in the case:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

^ Top cover filter. Note that I had to cut a chunk of the filter frame off in the top right corner because one of the posts was in the way.


^ PSU filter.


^ Flex-bay filter, inside.


^ Flex-bay filter, outside. If you were wondering, the adhesive that is exposed remains sticky for a couple weeks and will attract bits of dust and debris. smile.gif


^ Dust circles in the top panel filter. Doesn't look horrible, but I'm going to try the ModRight filters just to see how it looks with them.

The ModRight filters look pretty good, the thing I don't like is that the filter itself is white, I rather have them black, keep me updated once you have them installed post some pictures smile.gif
    
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The ModRight filters look pretty good, the thing I don't like is that the filter itself is white, I rather have them black, keep me updated once you have them installed post some pictures smile.gif

I believe they're actually grey/silver because they're aluminum mesh. Therefore, you cold probably actually paint it black if you wanted. You might have to experiment to make sure not to clog the mesh, but maybe spray paint lightly dusted in a few coats while lightly using compressed air to blow air through the mesh to keep it clear, or maybe if you have an airbrush, that should allow a fine enough mist not to clog, or even just carefully hand paint it on with a fine brush hobby brush and some compressed air if needed. If nothing else, you could always just make it black with a magic marker.

Glad to see this discussion about the filters because I have an S5 in white that I need to filter up. I'm thinking a full Demci on the top since the edges can be hidden by getting a slightly oversized filter so you can only see the filter material through the top grill/mesh. That way dust in the air that's just falling and not necessarily being pulled in by fans won't enter the case at all, as they would with just simply using the ModRight ones (since in the top there's room for dust to get around the fans and enter other areas of the case). But in the front, I may go with the ModRight ones since that's a more tightly sealed intake and the only way dust is really going to enter the front is when there's fans pulling it in, so it will have to pass straight through the filters. And they make a clear version of the mod right ones so it shouldn't mess with the aesthetics of a white case too much. The only annoying thing is that either way, that front intake grill requires the entire flex bay to be removed to get the grill off to clean. However, I'm thinking a powerful vacuum would suck the dust right of the face of the front filters to keep them mostly clean until you have things apart every once in a while to be able to thoroughly clean them.
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Hey, Real small update.

I ordered 2x Silverstone FF123B Fan filters for the front of my S3, they attach right on the fans so there a little bit sunken in behind the grill and won't mess with aesthetics as much as the Demciflex filter.
I ordered some black M4 x 30mm screws from the UK 2 weeks ago to replace the ugly silver ones that came with my SR-1, they should arrive anytime soon now but I think I will need 35mm screws because with the extra thickness of the filters, the radiator won't attach properly.



Also the store where I ordered the reservoir told me they predict to have them in store again on the 28th, so hopefully in a week and a half I can finish the build.
    
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I bought some new black anodized screws and fitted the Front Fan filters, I think it still looks decent with the filters on, much better then if I opted for the Demciflex filter route.

    
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Nice, how did you mount the filters? No matter what I did they always somehow managed to get up right against my fans and started making that slight screech noise from the rubbing against it. So I took them out and replaced them with these filters pretty good so far, plus the small dome makes it so that it is pretty much impossible to have them rub up against the fans.
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